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Bill: Moral Liberty Act 2071
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Democratic Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2072
Description[?]:
| Legalizing pornography and regulating it as to not present or encourage inequality or sexism. After all, if we have equal opportunity, pornography becomes completely a matter of choice. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The distribution, purchasing and possession of material depicting pornographic acts.
Old value:: All forms of pornography are illegal.
Current: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults.
Proposed: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:25:31, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | I agee with: Current: All forms of pornography are illegal. Proposed: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults. Current: Prostitution is illegal. Proposed: Prostitution is legal and a recognized profession. (With regulation) Current: All agricultural operations are state-owned and operated. Proposed: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families. (acording to market forces) |
| Date | 00:38:38, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | A national radio station subsidized by the government. Current: All radio stations are owned by the state. Proposed: The government subsidises a national radio station for educational and informational purposes. A national television medium subsidized by the government. Current: All television stations are owned by the state. Proposed: The government subsidises a national TV station for educational and informational purposes. ^ all that means that currently all the radio and TV stations must be government-owned. A TV station such as the BBC for example, is currently illegal. These current archaic laws are violation of free speech and free press though I do agree we should have a national radio and TV station, it should not be the only station available to the people of Darnussia. |
| Date | 01:54:48, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | So? Any amendments to be made? |
| Date | 04:16:51, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | Well? Anybody? Ideas? |
| Date | 04:28:46, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | I added proposals and if anyone will wish to remove any proposals, please, speak up during this debate on the bill. |
| Date | 11:54:18, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | 1. well this has many reasons and will end up in a long debate, and i'm tired so i refuse... 2. This hasn't got anything to do with free speech. they are not state-operated but state-owned. Like well lot's of examples in europe. 3. see above 4. this is a violation of woman rights (it will end up like such) i have read your wiki so i find this a kind off odd proposal. 5. prostitution see above and next time try to divide all these things over more bills so that more people can agree. |
| Date | 14:34:57, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | This is most definitely not a violation of women's rights. It can be said it is a violation of men's rights also. If our education system already provides equal opportunity for students to move on to any career they wish. It means that they all have an equal standing to enter any career of THEIR choice. In this way, it becomes a matter of choice and not because the person has to in order to survive. We will of course have strict regulation into these kinds of things to prevent harm but it is their private life and their choice of career when they have an equal standing to anyone else to learn and become say, a doctor, or any other career. Do not impose traditional conservative morals on your people. This will of course be equal. There are just as many males in such a business as there is females. I will close this bill and sub-divide it into many smaller bills. |
| Date | 15:32:47, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | Also, if something is illegal, more people will want to part-take in it and without any regulation, it will spread sexually transmitted diseases very quickly across the nation. Legalizing and regulating it means that there will not be any contiminated with STD's. |
| Date | 21:15:54, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | That may be the case, however we feel that, through a robust education program and a strong social service then we can effectively eliminate this vice without a painful compromise on prostituion. |
| Date | 21:39:44, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | All yes, except that last one. We can't let this pass if it legalizes prostitution. |
| Date | 13:36:05, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | prostitution isn't a profesion choice, it's a last resort for a hopeless individual! |
| Date | 17:15:42, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Chinkopodian Economic Democrats | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | I agree with LBSC. |
| Date | 20:27:12, June 24, 2005 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | In agreement with the SDP, on all counts bar pornography, which should be controlled. |
| Date | 20:44:26, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | Okay, we edited this bill to contain just a proposal on pornography and we will pass it to voting phase. |
| Date | 21:40:38, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | Muuuch better. *votes Yes* |
| Date | 03:30:30, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | Continuing the argument from the debate entitled "Porn", if sexuality was not such a large taboo in our society, people would be more mature about such issues from an earlier age and have some self-control. Being raised around such a taboo also leads to immaturity and an absence of exposure to such issues, they will lose control over their actions to the point of constantly harassing the opposite sex and before anyone knows it, this becomes the norm in our society. The fact that pornography is banned even to the adult population means that this misunderstanding carries on past childhood and into adulthood, then we really have problems. So, I ask the Communist Party, are you trying to raise a generation of psychologically-insecure persons and sexists? Think of how this sort of education passes on to later generations even after this current one. Restricting people from seeing such media and enforcing this law is also violating and trampling on a person's private life. |
| Date | 04:53:44, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Social Libertarian party | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | I already created something like this, but I guess I'll just delete it. |
| Date | 05:03:40, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | This one was older, I was just waiting for another bill which already had this option and no chance of passing to die out so I can move this bill to voting phase. |
| Date | 13:15:58, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | i have never seen a psychological insecure adult while porn used to be a taboo in our society. If there is a psychologically insecure generation then it is the current one who has seen porn! |
| Date | 20:12:54, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | Hear hear! |
| Date | 22:12:19, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | Were you even alive when pornography was a taboo? |
| Date | 03:53:14, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | no, but i spoke to people of that generation! |
| Date | 03:54:44, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | also there have been 2 polls in the netherlands asking to teens and adolescents if they are insecure about they're penis size 30 years ago 30% answered yes 2 years ago (or 1) 92% answered yes |
| Date | 04:36:23, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | So the only reason you have for voting no is that you think that men are insecure about their penis size? This is bloody insane! |
| Date | 07:32:46, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | Oh wait, all this time I thought commie was in FAVOUR of this bill. Damn. I need to pay more attention to what he says. |
| Date | 09:56:17, June 26, 2005 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | We once more re-iterate our opposition to pornography and it's ammoral trade. |
| Date | 18:25:33, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Moral Liberty Act 2071 |
| Message | not, the only reason it just throws away the argumentation tht it would make a more secure youth... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 316 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 434 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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