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Bill: Political Titles Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Democratic Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2073
Description[?]:
| Purely for cosmetic purposes. The name Leading Minister for our head of state just seems boring and we see from many past resolutions that many feel the same. We thought it appropriate to open up a debate into what would sound better than a simple "Leading Minister". We suggest something like Chancellor or Consul. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Leading Minister
Current: StaatsprƤsident/President (President)
Proposed: Secretary-General
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:03:42, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | It is all explained in the Description. What do you think would be a more suitable title for head of state in our country, Darnussia? |
| Date | 07:13:15, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | God, finally someone besides me and Comm. agrees. You got at least 190 seats backing you up should you come up with something good. I always liked President. Sadly people are scared of such a title. |
| Date | 11:55:42, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Secretary General :P well it might pass this time... |
| Date | 14:05:30, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Yea, I will vote for a new title, if it is a good one. Consul sounds good to me |
| Date | 18:15:41, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Consul sounds too unimportant. Something I'd name the Leading Minister;s advisor. |
| Date | 20:03:50, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | How about Supreme Chancellor? Is that important enough? or just Chancellor? |
| Date | 20:58:44, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Supreme Mugawump? |
| Date | 21:41:21, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Supreme Chancellor is fine. : ) |
| Date | 21:42:32, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | So is President, Secretary General, General Secretary, Prime Leading Minister, Uber Minister, Fuhrer (non-Hitler reference, oh and remember to add the umlaut to the u) |
| Date | 22:24:22, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | So does everyone agree with either Chancellor or Supreme Chancellor? |
| Date | 00:06:40, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Supreme Chancellor, yes |
| Date | 01:33:30, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | I agree with neither. Can't we have something a bit more generic? |
| Date | 02:07:27, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | You want generic? |
| Date | 03:28:14, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | *looks up generic* High Chancellor? What's wrong with Supreme Chancellor? It sounds oh so wonderfully powerful. C'mon, be coopertive for once. |
| Date | 04:10:31, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | heh, Supreme Chancellor is from Star Wars. |
| Date | 04:27:33, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | We will pass this bill into the voting stage only upon coming to a proper concensus over the title of the Head of State of the Darnussian Republic. The only instance towards the contrary would be when a name change would have a chance of winning despite a few seats against. This way we may reach the best possible compromise on this issue. Agreed? |
| Date | 06:02:29, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Well I agree. I just want the bloody name updated. It's been the same for nearly 40 years. I've been against it since it was proposed and I had absolutely no seats to vote against the bill. I will not be denied again, for the 5th time! |
| Date | 06:02:41, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Sorry, 6. I've been counting over the weeks. |
| Date | 13:33:48, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | saoundas too authoritarian... |
| Date | 13:46:00, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Hmmm, pitch in your two cents-worth. What would be a suitable title for the head of state? You are head of state afterall, alot of the decision should also rest with you. |
| Date | 13:47:46, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | sounds too* |
| Date | 13:48:45, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | yes, but i have no majority of my own. All cabinets are useless untill the mod gives them power. |
| Date | 19:24:07, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Big Cheese? |
| Date | 20:04:05, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | yes i want to be the big cheese :P. Well i like secretary general and Leading Minister but Secretary General most... but Supreme Chancellor... thats sick! seriously sounds authoritarian, really authoritarian! |
| Date | 20:41:56, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Just Chancellor then? or how about First Consul or First Citizen? or First Representative? or First Chancellor? or how about we have not one head of state but a council who will together act as a head of state? |
| Date | 21:53:44, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Nope. Too weak. I like Secretary General, and I like none that the SEP just proposed. |
| Date | 22:12:12, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Premier? |
| Date | 05:12:06, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Premier? Hell no. Prime Minister. Republic Chancellor? Sexy...but no. |
| Date | 05:27:29, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | What, is it too sexy for this nation to handle? :P |
| Date | 06:12:53, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Sadly, yes. I'd also accept Commisar of State for HoS. Leave Prime Minister alone. Only European title I like. |
| Date | 10:44:37, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | How about Pręsident? |
| Date | 13:12:40, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Commisar of State also sounds good |
| Date | 14:05:36, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | I would not accept Commisar, the Russian/Soviet connotations are too strong. Any takers for Pręsident? |
| Date | 19:42:35, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Erm, why not just President then? |
| Date | 03:51:12, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | no... |
| Date | 05:04:13, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Social Libertarian party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Well, let's vote on it then. |
| Date | 07:28:42, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | If both me and commie don't like this bill, it can never pass. 400 yay, 350 nay. Not enough for the 500 votes needed to pass. We'll take Secretary General indeed. All we need is another 150 seats to support us. Who's in? |
| Date | 07:42:37, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | *is tired* Okay random thought. Chief of State, anyone? |
| Date | 10:34:52, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Chinkopodian Economic Democrats | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Nah.....how about changing Republic Chancellor to Chancellor of the Republic, it sounds....well, better. |
| Date | 12:48:37, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Too much like star wars.... Gaurdian of the Constitution? |
| Date | 15:33:26, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | [Force Persuade] You will accept Republic Chancellor as the new title for the Head of State. |
| Date | 18:33:00, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Secretary General! now someone else agrees and we're ready! |
| Date | 18:37:17, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | We need everyone to agree. |
| Date | 20:16:19, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | We just need one other party to agree on Secretary General. |
| Date | 23:33:21, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Very well then. |
| Date | 23:34:14, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Also interesting to note: Secretary-General is also the title of the head of the United Nations. |
| Date | 23:37:30, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | I'm not against a change per se, I just haven't come accross I really like. |
| Date | 23:37:47, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | I'm not against a change per se, I just haven't come accross I really like. |
| Date | 01:15:14, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | Well I did propose President-Chancellor but that was shotdown by the LBSC and Communist Parties. |
| Date | 15:29:36, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | yes! it'll pass! |
| Date | 17:47:21, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Chinkopodian Economic Democrats | To | Debating the Political Titles Bill |
| Message | OK, I'm fine with Secretary-General. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 600 | |||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 150 | |||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: References to prominent real-life persons are not allowed. This includes references to philosophies featuring the name of a real-life person (eg. "Marxism", "Thatcherism", "Keynesianism"). |
| Random quote: "Politics, when it is an art and a service, not an exploitation, is about acting for an ideal through realities." - Charles De Gaulle |