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Bill: reduction on contraception bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2072
Description[?]:
| Why would the state carry the whole cost of contraceptives? A reduction should be sufficient. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on subsidising contraception.
Old value:: The government offers free contraceptives in pharmacies and public toilets.
Current: The government offers free contraceptives in pharmacies and public toilets.
Proposed: The government subsidises a considerable discount for contraceptives.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:11:09, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Workers Democratic Union | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | No |
| Date | 14:58:03, June 23, 2005 CET | From |  Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | To halt the spread of sexually transmitted disease, that's why. |
| Date | 16:19:35, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | I think we should have free contraceptives because although it would be good if we didn't have to, the alternative (STDs etc) is worse. This is the lesser of two evils from a Social Conservative perspective. |
| Date | 20:02:21, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Conservative Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | Hey, I'm not trieing to make contraceptives illegal, I'm not even making people to pay for it by themselves. If free contraceptives are that logic, than why doesn't ANY state (as far as I know) provide them? Why would it be impossible to have the people take up some responsibility as well? |
| Date | 22:19:21, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | SCP I am with you. I would go further on leaving it without any subsidies! Anyone participating in health care system already could have contraception prescribed by doctor and paid from the health care system. Why is contraception different from allergic illnesses or anything else? Current status is stupid, but there is no political will to move on. |
| Date | 22:20:01, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | We must bring order to this country wasting money. |
| Date | 23:36:52, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | No. |
| Date | 01:17:16, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | What money? ;-) |
| Date | 16:24:16, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Conservative Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | What money? In that case: what environment? Why have all this "green" legislation? In fact, why have a green party at all? |
| Date | 17:16:35, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | OOC: Why have a game at all in that case? Aloria doesn't exist! |
| Date | 17:49:29, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | \0/ Still against. Probably more so now. |
| Date | 18:03:23, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Conservative Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | FDP: exactly my point. |
| Date | 18:36:13, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | wait until economic system is here, aloria will deeply in its own shit |
| Date | 18:36:22, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | ...will be deeply... |
| Date | 20:22:21, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | *cough* RESET *cough* And there currently isn't really enough legislation to do enough to do that - I'm sure there will be room for "leveling out." |
| Date | 00:00:53, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | What about the poor? Why shan't we afford them protection when they need it? |
| Date | 05:52:22, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | Can we bring this to a vote? |
| Date | 11:12:37, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Social Conservative Party | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | The poor also profit from the reduction that still stands in this bill. Next to that, the poor should be granted a minimum general income. That way they can choose themselves what to spend their money on. Only providing free stuff means the state is dictating what poor people can obtain. |
| Date | 22:35:28, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Neoliberal Conservatives | To | Debating the reduction on contraception bill |
| Message | we supoprt the Social Conservative party It is important in our opinion that people have responsibility.. becuase freedom and responsibility are intertwined, this should however be done with changes, our educational bodies should be given the tools to be able to provide better education, becuase contraseptives only supplied in the form of a Condom can infact prevent most STD's we feel that the state carrying the burden for all known contraseptives is out of sink with the general free market attitude we like to persue... our solution: Provide Condoms and better education - cut the costs un un-necesary and over-used forms of contraseption |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 57 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 273 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 70 |
| Random fact: Periodically, it is a good idea to go through your nation's Treaties and arrange to withdraw from any that are unwanted. |
| Random quote: "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - John Adams |