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Bill: Police Equipment Broadening Act II
Details
Submitted by[?]: Free Beluzians
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2081
Description[?]:
| That the Military, having spent millions on arms development, are well equiped and armed; That our Police Forces, which enforce the laws we make, are not as well equiped with inferior civilian-classified weaponry and defenses; Let this Parliment give our police forces access to improved technology as used by the military. This Act would not be giving individual policemen a right to own military hardware, only giving the option of police districts to so equip their forces out of their own budgets. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers carry standard firearms.
Current: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers carry military-grade equipment.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:11:02, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Free Beluzians | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | Is there any further discussion on this bill? It is identical to the one by the same title propsed earlier. |
| Date | 20:01:02, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | Or instead of wasting money you could let the police go on as they are - not creating a climate of fear in the streets, and then if in times of trouble a stronger presence is needed, you send in the military. Money is prescious because it doesn't belong to us; it is entrusted into our hands by the citizens of Beluzia, who I'm pretty sure DON'T like it being wasted. |
| Date | 04:29:51, July 07, 2005 CET | From | Free Beluzians | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | This does not increase the police budget one doller, and does not mandate that all police districts must equip their policemen with military hardware. The last line of the PEB Act says, in the second half, "Only giving the option of police districts to so equip their forces OUT OF THEIR OWN BUDGETS." (Capitalised for emphasis, not shouting.) I do not like having to use the military in any sort of civil setting, and would prefer to use police for anything short of a full scall rebellion, which I do not forsee happening. |
| Date | 12:25:48, July 07, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | The police force are not a military department and are supposed to be protectors of the police. Please explain why the police require military grade equipment. |
| Date | 14:20:51, July 08, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | Pardon. They are supposed to be protectors and/or keepers of the peace. |
| Date | 18:37:38, July 11, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | Hoorah! Disrupting communists meetings requires armor peircing rounds and full automatic supresive fire! |
| Date | 01:10:20, July 12, 2005 CET | From | Free Beluzians | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | The Military doesn't just have improved weaponry. They also have improved support gear and armor gear, and these items would also be available to the Police. |
| Date | 13:51:21, July 12, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | However, the proposals' specifically deal with police weaponary not equipment. Please read your own proposal. |
| Date | 23:38:33, July 12, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | Dudes and dudettes - guns are cool and the bigger the cooler in general, but you don't want a climate of fear in the streets of Beluzia. Let's all just take a chill pill and enjoy the sunset. We want calm and tranquility resting beside reasonable quantities of alcohol and a government policy of keeping the population healthy - so that we all look bronzed and beautiful. If you want to konw what has happened to me, the change in my nature is due to the continental style weather that Scotland is experiencing right now. Its jammin'! |
| Date | 20:09:10, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | The weather is not "jammin' " come down to the south-west of this wee isle and you'll not find it so. |
| Date | 22:46:18, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | Ah well, you tend to get better weather the majority of the time, so it's about time we did too. The whole of last summer my town had a harr covering it every day, so the good weather is long overdue. |
| Date | 03:47:22, July 15, 2005 CET | From | Beluzian Labor Party | To | Debating the Police Equipment Broadening Act II |
| Message | There is a reason why the Beluzian police force is not also responsible for the defence of our nation from foreign invaders. Their focus is law enforcement, not defence. Likewise, there is a good reason the Beluzian armed forced are not responsible for law enforcement. Let's not turn our police force into soldiers, which is effectively what we would be doing by arming them as such. Soldiers uphold civil order through occupation, oppression, and through terrorising the civilian populace. Our police uphold civil order through the application of the smallest force necessary to uphold the law, and understanding community concerns. Labor believes that our police are doing a magnificent job with their current equipment, and that the Beluzian people wouldn't appreciate it if we geared up our cops like some sort of an occupying army. Labor believes that fighting crime is important, but knows that the best way to address high crime rates is by hiring more police officers, not by turning them into soldiers. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 88 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 186 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 17 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not implement nation renaming requests where the proposed name does not comply with the requirements set out in the Nation Renaming Guide: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6364 |
| Random quote: “Human rights means doing whatever the fuck you want” - Benji Benandez, former Dranian politician |