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Bill: Repeal of earlier legislation
Details
Submitted by[?]: Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2336
Description[?]:
Had this not been amended by stealth by the PLPL in their 'High School Completion Act', we may have considered it. As it was passed by only 20 votes, with the majority abstaining, we give this parties the opportunity to repeal it. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age at which a person is considered an adult (limited between 12 and 24).
Old value:: 18
Current: 18
Proposed: 16
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 17:01:04, December 27, 2006 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the Repeal of earlier legislation |
Message | We would be glad to give all parties a chance to vote on it, but we don't understand your having supported it the first time around and now backing its repeal. Anyone can propose its repeal, and we hope that the parties that have recently been absent all return and can choose to do so if they like. We hope they do not want to, but if they do they have that right. We hope to see an active nation again. It is also true, however, that decisions are made by those who show up. |
Date | 17:10:46, December 27, 2006 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the Repeal of earlier legislation |
Message | We want to add to that: It is no less "stealth" when only two parties are voting and your party is the larger one to pass an extreme pacifism bill, when the parties that would need to defeat it are not around. But, we would not have complained had the LITP not, as it goes back to "decisions are made by those who show up." |
Date | 00:29:56, December 28, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Repeal of earlier legislation |
Message | The PLPL raise a valid point. If a second party votes against the repeal, we will switch our vote. |
Date | 04:46:37, December 28, 2006 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the Repeal of earlier legislation |
Message | How about abstaining or voting no unless a third party logs in and votes (unless you actually believe in the change you're proposing)? Then, if one does, you can vote on the side of the third party-- whichever one it is-- and let that party decide whether the law is changed. Again, if you really believe in your vote on the merits, or as a means of positioning your party for the election, you have every right to do what you're doing. If you're doing it because you don't believe that it was okay for me to make a proposal (one which you were on and could have blocked at the time but chose not to), then I strongly disagree-- and in fact I'd say it was no different from your unilateral disarmament bill. I'm really hoping inactive parties activate, as this is not a game to be played with two parties-- or three, once the libertarians come back, given that I know they'll disagree with me on almost everything. I want the MMP and RWL back, and the UDLP if possible...and some new parties ideally. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 55 | |||
no | Total Seats: 20 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 100 |
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