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Bill: Increase Military Research Funding

Details

Submitted by[?]: Free Beluzians

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2082

Description[?]:

Resolved that this body will increase the funding to various Research and Development programs within the Beluzian Defence Forces.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date13:55:19, July 14, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageWe're coping and we aren't at war and spending is fine at the moment. Should we feel threatened by our neighbours that would be the time to increase funding into military research, however to increase it would not only alarm our peaceful neighbours but also take money away from those who need it most in our society.

Date17:50:48, July 14, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageHoorah! More coal for the fire of Beluzias righteous wrath towards the foriegn menace!~

Date21:38:00, July 14, 2005 CET
FromNeo-Marxist revolutionary Party
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageWhy should we increase a miltary budget when we are:

a) not at war, and unlikely to be at war in the near future.

b) possibly entering into a non-agression pact.


Date00:12:41, July 15, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageNON-AGGRESSION PACT????? When was this going to be announced?

Date00:33:49, July 15, 2005 CET
FromNeo-Marxist revolutionary Party
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageSee one of my other bills it talks about the possibility of a non-agression pact with Rutania.

Date00:42:47, July 15, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
Messagesorry I see it now

Date00:46:15, July 15, 2005 CET
FromFree Beluzians
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageMonies given to the military under this bill would only be used for research purposes. If we can modernize our military, and research new military technologies, we can keep our current military updated - and possibly even downsize it while keeping it the same fighting level.

Date01:21:17, July 15, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageI think ths would be a bit provokative at a time when we are entering into peace talks with Rutania.

Date02:00:50, July 15, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageCancel that - we need to be protected. This is acceptable.

Date02:56:53, July 15, 2005 CET
FromSocial-Liberal Party
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageWe do not feel that military posturing would be reflective of the pacifist nature of the Beluzian people. At the same time we see reason in a bill that would make our military 'smarter', and I would invite the Free Beluzians to make their proposal a little more specific with regards to goals, aims, etc.

Date16:01:06, July 17, 2005 CET
FromBeluzian Labor Party
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageLabor supports Lifting the Standard of Beluzia's defence forces, but is hesitant about increasing spending without any specific goals or objectives. We believe some specifics should be added to the bill.

Date23:13:56, July 18, 2005 CET
FromNeo-Marxist revolutionary Party
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageWe also believe that the FBP should add more specifics to this bill. As it stands it is too ambiguous. (Not the actual word I want but it'll do)

Date10:24:32, July 19, 2005 CET
FromSocial-Liberal Party
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageAs no specifics have been added, contrary to the request of this House, we shall be voting NAY.

Date10:47:21, July 19, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageThe SLP had a very good point, however bills like this get your neighbours talking and thats always a good thing :-)

Date11:10:57, July 19, 2005 CET
FromFree Beluzians
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageThe FBP cannot think of any specifics - we are not research institutions, and aside from space and naval technologies, we do not know what is cutting edge, outdated, or fictional military technology.

This bill just allocates more funding towards military research institutes and may not even have any results for combat technology as far as we understand it.

Date11:34:59, July 19, 2005 CET
FromSocial-Liberal Party
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageI am dissapointed by the refusal of Free Beluzians to add anything to their bill, just extrapolating upon what they want, despite the request by three members of this house to do this. We will be sure to remember this when we get in power.

This bill is vague and unstructured, and it will be a shame to see it pass into law. It will not make the Beluzian defence more effective.

Date13:39:45, July 19, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageI think it is unfair to say it "will not" make Beluzian defences better; rather that it 'might not'.

Date18:59:02, July 19, 2005 CET
FromNeo-Marxist revolutionary Party
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageActually this bill affects nothing there is no proposal. Thusly no effect. However even on an rp theme it will affect nothing since no real legislation. The state "this body" I would ask which body in question. This government? This House? The FBP? A certain ministry? What body?

It states that various Research and Development programmes.... please specify?

Date00:23:25, July 20, 2005 CET
FromSocial-Liberal Party
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageToo late to specify now. They put it up to vote.

Date02:15:40, July 20, 2005 CET
FromFree Beluzians
ToDebating the Increase Military Research Funding
MessageOOC: Sorry for the ambigious termenology there, I had been writing legislation for Nationstates UN >.< Should this bill be passed, I'll propose a second bill on the subject to further define the nature of this bill.

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Total Seats: 140

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Total Seats: 0

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Total Seats: 134


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