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Bill: Justice Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Democrats of Jakania
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2359
Description[?]:
| Fixing the system |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to appeal against a judgement rendered by a court.
Old value:: All judgements are final and binding; appealing against them is not possible.
Current: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Proposed: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is applied to most minor and all major criminal offences.
Current: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation is never paid for by the state.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:49:35, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Scientific Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Justice Bill |
| Message | For the record, we don't particularly agree with article 5. |
| Date | 22:55:12, February 12, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Justice Bill |
| Message | One of the goals of prison is to rehabilitate. Article 5 helps to do that |
| Date | 00:59:24, February 13, 2007 CET | From | Scientific Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Justice Bill |
| Message | Yes. We don't particularly disagree strongly with article 5, we simply don't particularly agree. In our opinion, prison is only for extreme cases, such as murder and rape. We just think there are better things the government can do with the money that it has taken from its people than rehabilitate murderers. In our opinion, prison should be first and foremost a deterrence, which is somewhat hindered by turning it into a place of learning. We feel that prison should secondarily be a place to keep dangerous criminals so that they are not a menace to society. We don't know if the most dangerous criminals, the only kind that we feel should be put in prison, we don't know if they can be rehabilitated (By which we mean we haven't read any research on the subject, that we literally do not know enough to form an opinion. We are, as is our habit, using the 'we' in the sense of the 'royal we' or 'imperial plural', really referring only to a single individual, and not in the sense of 'we as society as a whole'). So, yes, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being 'strongly disagree' and 10 being 'strongly agree' and 5 being 'don't give a [expletive]', we are approximately at a 3 or 4 on this issue. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 100 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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