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Bill: National Reforms
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Democrats of Jakania
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2369
Description[?]:
| A couple of laws in place that I think we never actually covered one the nation once again became "Jakania" |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Libel laws.
Old value:: The nation has no laws regarding libel.
Current: Individuals may sue over falsehoods and defamatory opinions printed on them.
Proposed: Individuals may sue over falsehoods and defamatory opinions printed on them.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Slander laws.
Old value:: The nation has no laws regarding slander.
Current: Individuals may sue over malicious falsehoods spoken about them.
Proposed: Individuals may sue over malicious falsehoods spoken about them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:03:35, March 05, 2007 CET | From |  Scientific Libertarian Party | To | Debating the National Reforms |
| Message | We're actually having a hard time figuring out what the difference is. The current legislation is "the government has no opinion, so do whatever you want", the new legislation would be "the government says you can do whatever you want". Of course, the justice system is government-run, so allowing people to sue over petty things is a waste of taxpayer dollars. Oh snap, we're well on the way to convincing ourselves to vote against this bill. |
| Date | 22:06:36, March 05, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the National Reforms |
| Message | We would approve this bill in full were it not for the phrase "...and defamatory opinions printed on them", which earns it our opposition. We believe we should provide people with a legal method of challenging falsehoods spoken or printed about them, otherwise there would be no defence against it. But allowing challenges to defamatory remarks, even if true, is wrong. It would illegalise criticism of people, of officials within the government or any organisation were it deemed too negative. If tomorrow, the president was involved in the murdering of another person, and a newspaper reported on it; this law would allow the president to sue said paper for defamation, regardless of how true the story is. We shouldn't need to state how dangerous this is. Providing legal basis for opposing falsehoods is a good thing, but opposing defamation is exceedingly dangerous to our freedom of speech and our country in general. |
| Date | 21:49:42, March 06, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the National Reforms |
| Message | THE JLS PROPOSED A BILL EARLIER DOING ALMOST THE EXACT SAME THING!!! http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=103151 |
| Date | 01:39:32, March 07, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the National Reforms |
| Message | Ours was different, it covered only falsehoods, which is the position we just stated we support in full. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 139 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 341 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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