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Bill: Big Brother's Little Cards
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partisans And Artisans League
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2092
Description[?]:
| ID cards are another form of control that the government uses to gather information on the unsuspecting, law-abiding and innocent citizens of Beluzia. The possibilities of abuse of the system are unthinkable. The government must admit that this is a weapon for delving into the private lives' of the citizens of Beluzia. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: Citizens are issued with identity cards on a voluntary basis.
Current: Citizens are issued with identity cards on a voluntary basis.
Proposed: Citizens are not issued with identity cards.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:14:02, August 02, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | Thoughts, peeps? |
| Date | 20:06:56, August 02, 2005 CET | From | Humanism-Scientism Collusion | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | Voluntary ID cards seem a bit useless - I'd prefer mandatory ID, as that must aid fighting crime. Electronic and biometric ID cards should be a starting point. |
| Date | 00:41:40, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | We currently have ID cards but if I recall correctly I'll hunt for the bill later, they are neither electronic, nor do they contain biometric data. The latter we would consider to be extremely intrusive and we would oppose such an action. I believe that they did used to be mandatory though. |
| Date | 00:48:28, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | If they are voluntary, what is the point in them? |
| Date | 01:04:05, August 03, 2005 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | True, we should either issue mandatory ID cards or we have none, we should not be on any middle ground. We support this proposal because we believe that ID cards would be an invasion of privacy. |
| Date | 17:44:02, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Humanism-Scientism Collusion | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | In what way? These days, you have to identify yourself too - with a drivers' license or other forms of ID. Might be easier if these IDs would be combined in one ID card. |
| Date | 23:29:39, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | Why do you need to identify yourself HSC? The only times people need identification is when they have a real reason and they will then carry some sort of ID like you say, a driver lisence. RL - I have NEVER had to provide ID once in my life. The occassions are rare. Therefore when people have legitamite ID in a passport why do they need to carry another form? |
| Date | 16:42:13, August 06, 2005 CET | From | Humanism-Scientism Collusion | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | Well, there are people around without a driver's license. Identification? How did you ever subscribe to university or other schooling? Open a bank account? Get your drivers' license? Prove to cops who you were when controlled? |
| Date | 17:00:39, August 06, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | Birth certificate? Your not suggesting that some people don't have them are you? |
| Date | 05:30:42, August 07, 2005 CET | From | Catholic Workers Movement | To | Debating the Big Brother's Little Cards |
| Message | A citizenship card, voluntarily offered, might be a good thing to have. If this passes, then no one would be required to have a birth certificate, which is, after all, a form of ID. That could cause problems. Our caucus is still undecided, but leaning towards "no." |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 100 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 139 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 61 |
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