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Bill: Taking power away from a moribund rotting government

Details

Submitted by[?]: Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2466

Description[?]:

We'll use all our 50 proposals (we wish there were more since there are more functions worth stripping away) to protest the do nothing useless federal government and propose moving all responsibilities to the states. The states are closer to the people and know better than the current Senate.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:28:34, October 04, 2007 CET
From Christian Action
ToDebating the Taking power away from a moribund rotting government
MessageYou shouldn't make mixed bills.
if you do no party can support them.
If a bill on economic, moral or child welfare policy then let their be three bills, one to each, and leave said bills in debate long enough to gain a majority if it is anything except a desperate attempt to change the public's opinions and sensationalist vote grabbing.
Although the Federalists is good trick as everyone else is Unitarian and from memory, its an important issue in atleast one minor Canton. Mind you if you abandon all your principles and become a liberal party absolutely not just in recent policy, then that need not a concern, of course your former constituents would turn against you and given your communists past the Liberal votes may caution your credibility, But hey, you wouldn't be a true Stalinist if you didnt betray each and every one of your principles and supporters the moment you got into power.

Date14:47:41, October 05, 2007 CET
From Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front
ToDebating the Taking power away from a moribund rotting government
MessageAs for what this accomplished in terms of positioning. Given the importance is rated as tiny. Probably nothing.

You also use the wrong historical analogy. After the Russian Revolution the communist ran with the slogan "all power to the parliament." After the results of the election proved inadequate they changed their slogan to "all power to the soviets" which were councils dominated by communists. Hence the birth of the Soviet Union. My intention is if one level of government can't meet the needs of the people as clearly this senate can't to transfer power down to the local levels who might be able to do something.

Now what you're accusing me of would be the example of New Economic Policy where free market reforms were used to gain the confidence of small land and business owners until their utility had been depleted and were hence annhilated. Or perhaps the Spanish Civil War when the communists vigorously defended the spanish middle class in he name of national unity against right-wing fascist forces. Both scenarios more aptly describe our position in the last government where we supported compromises with our liberal allies in the name of the national good. But both were compromises where something was given back to the workers to better their position. That unfortunately is not a viable scenario now.

As for overall strategy. In terms of positioning it is rated as tiny so doubtful it'll make any difference. If my intention was to shift where I stood I'd just make a large bill and vote against it. This bill is purely ideological. And perhaps a reaction to the large omnibus bills where for example in order to vote for one military proposal I liked I had to vote for a bunch of other stuff I didn't. So I made my own omnibus proposal. And everything is fine with me with in it. All power to the states.

So far we are voting on very little and abstaining from most votes. And our profile has remained pretty static. We find the conspiracy theories amusing. Perhaps we should take them as viable suggestions?

Date13:00:05, October 06, 2007 CET
From Christian Action
ToDebating the Taking power away from a moribund rotting government
MessageThe comment you abandoning your principles was in reference to your support of the Ministers resignation.
Each Canton has different attributes which are vital or unimportant, you never know.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 18

no
  

Total Seats: 222

abstain
     

Total Seats: 160


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