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Bill: D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Front Nationaliste Royaliste

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2473

Description^[?]:

Unilateral Declaration of Independence

We, the democratically elected representatives of the people of Rildanor:

RECOGNISING that the convoluted and undemocratic structure of the Union of South Selaya has hampered the political, social, and economic progress of Rildanor;

RECOGNISING that the Rildanorian people were not given a fair say in the ratification of Rildanor's membership in the Union of South Seleya; and

RESOLVED to correct the imbalances left by the Union of South Seleya:

Do hereby declare and adopt the following:

Article I - Rildanor is a free, sovereign, and independent nation, free from any foreign authority.

Article II - The Province de Rildanor is henceforth abolished, to be replaced with the Royaume de Rildanor.

Article III - The Constitution of the Union of South Seleya henceforth has no authority in the Royaume de Rildanor.

Article IV - Only the democratically-elected S�nat de Rildanor has the authority to pass legislation with regards to the Royaume de Rildanor.

Article V - The Royaume de Rildanor reaffirms its commitment to the establishment of a constitutional parliamentary monarchy upon its full withdrawal from the Union of South Seleya.

Article VI - His Majesty, Louis-Phillippe of the Royal House of Nareath is hereby delared to be the Roi des Rildanoriens. This position shall be passed on to his heirs and successors as defined by the law.

This Declaration shall enter into full effect after its attainment of 2/3s of the vote of the S�nat de Rildanor.

Proposals

Article 1

Withdraw from the L'Union de Seleya du Sud (The Union of South Seleya).

Article 2

Proposal^[?] to change The national flag (URL).

Old value:: http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/NealMey/th_NewFlag.png

Current: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/particracy/images/6/62/RildanorUnionFlag.png

Proposed: http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/images/Canada/factfile/Quebec_flag.png

Article 3

Proposal^[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.

Old value:: Premier

Current: Premier ministre

Proposed: Premier Ministre

Article 4

Proposal^[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.

Old value:: Pr�sident

Current: Chef de l'État Rildanorien (Head of the Rildanorian State)

Proposed: Roi des Rildanoriens

Article 5

Proposal^[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.

Old value:: 250

Current: 75

Proposed: 300

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	23:15:22, October 14, 2007 CET
From	Front Nationaliste Royaliste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	We would also support renaming Rildanor to the R�publique Reconstitu�e de Rildanor (Restored Republic of Rildanor) or the Royaume de Rildanor (Kingdom of Rildanor), if the S�nat is prepared for a return to the constitutional monarchy.

Date	01:39:57, October 15, 2007 CET
From	Front Canrillaise
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	If there is enough support for a move to a constitutional monarchy then we support this. Otherwise, we will vote against. Also, 2/3 support is needed to withdraw from the Union.

Date	02:16:40, October 15, 2007 CET
From	Front Nationaliste Royaliste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	Hence why the following phrase was included: "This Declaration shall enter into full effect after its attainment of 2/3s of the vote of the S�nat de Rildanor."

Date	02:29:49, October 15, 2007 CET
From	Parti Orthodoxe Rouge
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	The Orthodoxe Rouge support this bid for independence. We have been against the joining of our nation from the beginning. Let us return to independence.

Date	20:30:33, October 15, 2007 CET
From	Parti Union Nationale
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	We oppose this measure inless the Monarchy is some how restored.

Date	00:56:48, October 16, 2007 CET
From	Front Nationaliste Royaliste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	Would the Parti Orthodoxe Rouge be opposed to independence from the Union under a restored constitution monarchy?

Date	09:05:25, October 16, 2007 CET
From	Parti Orthodoxe Rouge
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	The Rouge wish for our independence back. We would prefer a republican form of government but may be willing to live with a monarch...if concessions were given.

Date	09:51:25, October 16, 2007 CET
From	Populaire Marxist Front
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	I support with the indepence of our country from foreign rule, But i heavily disagree on Monarchy. We should be named French Independant Republic of Rilandor

Date	17:37:07, October 16, 2007 CET
From	Front Canrillaise
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	Certainly Rildanor would remain a democratic control even with a SYMBOLIC and CEREMONIAL monarch.

Date	23:37:34, October 16, 2007 CET
From	Front Nationaliste Royaliste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	What sort of concessions would the Parti Orthodoxe Rouge require in order to support the restoration of a constitutional monarch? Remember that the restoration of the constitutional monarchy is the only way the nationalists (FNR + POR) can convince the other royalists (PA + PPN) to support a return to sovereignty.

Date	01:17:38, October 17, 2007 CET
From	Parti Orthodoxe Rouge
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	We would like a guarantee that the monarch will remain out of the political arena. The monarchy shall only be a ceremonial role. The monarchy should not be allowed to participate in the politics of our nation in any way.

Date	03:39:12, October 17, 2007 CET
From	Front Nationaliste Royaliste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	In order to secure a relatively peaceful and uncontroversial transfer of power and the acceptance of the new Rildanorian monarchy by the Rildanorian people, we have proposed a much more modernised and reformed monarchy. The Sovereign's title shall be "Roi des Rildanoriens" (King of the Rildanorians) instead of the more traditional "Roi de Rildanor" (King of Rildanor). The nation's head of government shall be restyled "Premier Ministre" (lit. Prime/First Minister) instead of the old "Premier". Furthermore, we have added a clause extending the size of the S�nat de Rildanor to 300 Senatuers. However, the last remaining thing to do is to reform our national flag. In order to drive a compromise between the very republican present flag and the traditional golden fluer-de-lis on white, we propose the following solution: 1. http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/images/Canada/factfile/Quebec_flag.png (OOC: Flag of Quebec) will be adopted as the national flag of Rildanor; 2. http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/f/fr_roys.gif (OOC: Royal Standard of the Bourbon Restoration) will be adopted as the personal standard of the Sovereign. ((OOC: Think more in terms of the July Monarchy in France, which was my inspiration for most of this. I'm open to debate on the Quebecer flag being used, but I'm quite fond of it.))

Date	03:42:14, October 17, 2007 CET
From	Front Nationaliste Royaliste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	Unfortunately, we cannot propose a full monarchical constitutional amendment until after we have withdrawn from the Union. However, we believe that the word of the Parti Orthodoxe Rouge will be sufficient to ensure a passage of the constitutional amendment after our withdrawal from the Union. However, the titling of the head of state and the other reforms will be passed along with the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale.

Date	03:49:16, October 17, 2007 CET
From	Front Nationaliste Royaliste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	The D�claration has been amended to reflect the present deal for the establishment of a new constitutional monarchy. If anyone has an issue with the wording of the D�claration, please post it here and I'll amend it.

Date	04:35:17, October 17, 2007 CET
From	Front Canrillaise
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	We prefer the first flag proposal as it is more simple and at the same time shows the fleur-de-lis. Everything else is good. The monarchy system will have to be introduced quickly once this bill passes.

Date	06:10:28, October 17, 2007 CET
From	Parti Radical et Radical-Socialiste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	The Parti Radical, reaffirms its stance as pro-union and pro-republic, and will actively fight against the dissolution of the South Seleya and the restoration of the monarchy.

Date	23:29:53, October 17, 2007 CET
From	Parti Orthodoxe Rouge
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	The Rouge favour the first flag alternative.

Date	23:34:39, October 17, 2007 CET
From	Front Nationaliste Royaliste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	Unfortunately, the D�claration will not be passed during this session of the Senate, due to Senatorial elections being scheduled for August of this year.

Date	07:25:23, October 18, 2007 CET
From	Parti Radical et Radical-Socialiste
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	Well at least with this bill being voted on the voters can activily choose whether or not ot declair indipendence or reestablish the monarch... we will know thier will by their votes. OOC: obviously the seperation issue is not applicable to the logarythm that calculates our seats but oh well... oh and to note i am not reffering to any support for the pretender to be president... that is different from wanting him to be a monarch... so don't jup on my ass for that... thank you :) !

Date	04:55:39, October 19, 2007 CET
From	Front Canrillaise
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	This will not pass even with the four supporting parties. Therefore, the Parti d'Aristocratie will vote against to keep the South Seleyan treaty in place.

Date	05:05:08, October 19, 2007 CET
From	2�me PPPP
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	"The convoluted and undemocratic structure of the Union of South Selaya has hampered the political, social, and economic progress of Rildanor." This is an outright FALLACY, unsupported by any shred of fact. The history, culture and people of Rildanor and Kanjor share many things, and what is a nation if not the union of similar peoples? Together we can succeed in many things. As the Kanjoran motto states, there is strength in unity. I plead with our Rildanoran kin to reconsider this proposal and understand how great a thing our union is. Sincerely, Le Parti Pour Paix et Progress, L'Union de Seleya du Sud, Province de Kanjor

Date	05:45:21, October 19, 2007 CET
From	Union Pour Un Movement Populaire
To	Debating the D�claration de l'Ind�pendance Unilat�rale
Message	Do you truly think so poorly of our great alliance? We are disheartened by this move, our greatest allies speaking seditiously against us. The people of Kanjor still support the people of Rildanor regardless. Sincerement, Union Pour Un Movement Populaire L'Union de Seleya du Sud, Province de Kanjor

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Voting

Vote

Seats

yes

Front Nationaliste Royaliste (50)
Parti Orthodoxe Rouge (47)

Total Seats: 97

Total Seats: 88

abstain

Union D�mocrate Libertarien (34)
Parti Radical et Radical-Socialiste (21)
Populaire Marxist Front (10)

Total Seats: 65

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