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Bill: Pension System Reform Proposal
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rutanian Democratic Forum
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2630
Description[?]:
| "RDF is a party that believes that every worker, every citizen of this country has the right to old age with dignity. System of private pension insurance is good, but we want to give greater responsibility to the public system that will not only serve the profit, but public interest for the benefit of all citizens. Therefore, we suggest the introduction of mandatory public pension system with optional private pension funds." Caitlyn Caldwell, MNC Vice president of RDF |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:41:26, August 30, 2008 CET | From |  Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Pension System Reform Proposal |
| Message | We are on the fence. |
| Date | 17:22:32, August 30, 2008 CET | From | Kazari Militarist Movement | To | Debating the Pension System Reform Proposal |
| Message | We don't know what to believe, we are against a welfare state but we support giving pensions to workings who have been laid off. Right now, we lean towards supporting this. |
| Date | 18:13:37, August 30, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Pension System Reform Proposal |
| Message | "No man left behind." |
| Date | 20:01:12, August 30, 2008 CET | From | Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Pension System Reform Proposal |
| Message | Right now workers can choose whether or not to take a pension. What is the benefit of making it compulsary? |
| Date | 20:14:24, August 30, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Pension System Reform Proposal |
| Message | "Well, if they can choose whether or not to take a pension, they may choose not taking pension, not because they don't want to, it may be that they do not have enough money to pay a pension fund. Compulsory fund will fix that - distributing expence between private funds, state, society, employers and workers." |
| Date | 22:18:49, August 30, 2008 CET | From | Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Pension System Reform Proposal |
| Message | We are not convinced. |
| Date | 02:46:31, August 31, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Pension System Reform Proposal |
| Message | We would rather that the government offers tax breaks to those who invest in superannuation, rather than forcing all people into compulsory superannuation. Thus, we support the status quo. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 219 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 341 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 39 |
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