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Bill: Welfare Proposal
Details
Submitted by[?]: The Egalitarian Coalition
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2677
Description[?]:
| People ought to be looked after by the government, especially children. Rutania will not sit idly by as its people starve; it will seek to help them plan for the future and support them in times of need. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state does not provide child benefit.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:26:08, December 04, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Welfare Proposal |
| Message | People ought to work for their own sustenance. This only provides incentives for people to be unemployed for extended periods and will only increase the burden on hardworking Rutanians. |
| Date | 20:04:23, December 04, 2008 CET | From | The Egalitarian Coalition | To | Debating the Welfare Proposal |
| Message | We admit that the system is imperfect; undoubtedly there will be those who will take advantage of the system to remain unemployed. However, there will also be those who are unable to find work and require support from the government. I propose Article 2 in the spirit that regional governments will monitor the job-seeking of welfare recipients to ensure that they are indeed earning their government subsidy by applying themselves vigorously to the process of re-integration into the labor force. Regional governments may also dictate the length of time as they see fit. Hardworking Rutanians who are put out of work by circumstances beyond their control want nothing more than the pleasure of working again and being a productive member of society; it is in the peoples' best interest for the government to help them do so. ~Kael Cissan EC Party Chairman |
| Date | 05:00:10, December 05, 2008 CET | From | The Peoples Progressive Party | To | Debating the Welfare Proposal |
| Message | We agree with what this bill plans to help. The government can and will afford to help it's citizens like this. Ofcourse, there are those who will take advantage of the system, but I have a more optimistic view of our proud citizens. The vast majority of those on this system will use it with the most sincere humility. |
| Date | 13:56:40, December 05, 2008 CET | From | Socialist League for a new society | To | Debating the Welfare Proposal |
| Message | We will support. |
| Date | 00:40:32, December 06, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Restoration Party | To | Debating the Welfare Proposal |
| Message | The Orange Party agrees with the FRLU. |
| Date | 22:32:01, December 07, 2008 CET | From | The Egalitarian Coalition | To | Debating the Welfare Proposal |
| Message | We thank the PPP for concisely understanding out position. In response to the pessimistic FRLU and the Orange Party, we implore you to reconsider your harsh position considering the work ethic of our citizens as we submit this to a vote. |
| Date | 20:24:05, December 08, 2008 CET | From | Kazari Militarist Movement | To | Debating the Welfare Proposal |
| Message | We support this bill for limited welfare |
| Date | 21:20:24, December 08, 2008 CET | From | Kazari Militarist Movement | To | Debating the Welfare Proposal |
| Message | Also, there will be a time limit on welfare given to unemployed recipients. I hope the FRLU and the OP have that considered for this bill. "All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time." -Bryan Yeung 3PPP Financial Advisor |
| Date | 22:39:03, December 08, 2008 CET | From | Imperium Party | To | Debating the Welfare Proposal |
| Message | I for one agree with the Libertarians' view that citizens of Rutania should work hard in order to gain a better life in the future. We are wholeheartedly against benefit theives. But then again the Imperium Party do support the view that the government should look after the people, but not forever. Therefore we this proposal by the EC we support article 1 in which low-income families will be given benefits from the government. Article 2 and 3 are acceptable, a pension for the elderly and bursaries for the unemployed. Iain Angel Imperium Party Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 253 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 346 |
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