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Bill: Socialist Manifesto of 3329
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist Workers Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 3329
Description[?]:
| This will defnitely not pass if the Conservatives return, though if we're lucky this is one step closer to a just Zardugal! (If Conservatives read this...hello :P) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is allowed, but with additional regulations to those of adult labourers.
Current: Child labour is forbidden.
Proposed: Child labour is forbidden.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on subsidising contraception.
Old value:: The government does not supply free or discounted contraceptives.
Current: The government offers free contraceptives in pharmacies and public toilets.
Proposed: The government offers free contraceptives in pharmacies and public toilets.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Current: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Proposed: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Current: The government requires most industries to be fully run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Proposed: The government requires most industries to be fully run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:12:05, July 04, 2012 CET | From | New Democratic Party | To | Debating the Socialist Manifesto of 3329 |
| Message | Child labour should be allow in certain cirucumstances (OOC: like working at McDonalds). And employers should be able to fire workers who go on strike for stupid reasons. Otherwise it will kill the economy when everyone goes on strike because they can. Article 4 is a maybe. DWCs won't work on a massive scale. We would oppose even giving them subsidies. |
| Date | 00:44:18, July 04, 2012 CET | From | Socialist Workers Party | To | Debating the Socialist Manifesto of 3329 |
| Message | Child labour is not working at McDonald's etc. far too many people think it is. Child labour is in 99% (not literally ;P) per cent of the cases involuntary physical work. Children are supposed to play and be educated, not work at factories. Where I live there is a clear line of 16 or something and after you've reached that age you may get yourself some fancy job. Though child labour is just sick. Yeah sure take the neighbours' dogs for a walk but that's not the same thing. Also, when the trade union sections are democratic that will be the clear voice of the workers. How about all of them just creating their own mass-cooperative or anything, that would certainly wreck the economic situation of the pig-dogs, I agree there. Also, DCWs do indeed work many places, perhaps not where you live, but where I live they do. A thing called DE-CENTRALISATION. It works excellently. (Suddenly I got a little interested, where are you from anyway? Just country, of course :) Canada?) |
| Date | 00:51:47, July 04, 2012 CET | From | New Democratic Party | To | Debating the Socialist Manifesto of 3329 |
| Message | OOC: I'm from Australia. And when you mean child labour as in factories, yes, we should definitely ban that. But I recall that in a previous bill, it was restricted to work that wasn't strenous or dangerous. And as for unrestrained union workers, well - OOC: In Australia in the late 1990s, the dockworkers were working at an incredibly low rate of efficiency. When the new Prime Minister John Howard came in to smash to dock unions, the efficiency rate tripled. Unrestrained unions means economic collapse - for everyone, not just the rich. |
| Date | 01:13:13, July 04, 2012 CET | From | Socialist Workers Party | To | Debating the Socialist Manifesto of 3329 |
| Message | When the gov't and the unions work side by side (also through a workers' party) it usually turns out great up here. The Labour Party and the National Confederation have a very close relationship and we have a very responsible administration of both. Let's just roleplay we've got that here as well, eh? That way the workers are naturally not unrestrained, but they might have been in 1990s Australian docks, though there I agree with you. Neither do I support unrestrained unions. Also, I didn't know about the different terms when it comes to child labour here as I wasn't here back then. However, there is a difference between fully releasing the claws of the market upon minors, and letting them work voluntarily for relatively small wages. |
| Date | 03:40:26, July 04, 2012 CET | From | New Democratic Party | To | Debating the Socialist Manifesto of 3329 |
| Message | OOC: BTW, where are you from? |
| Date | 14:11:53, July 04, 2012 CET | From | Socialist Workers Party | To | Debating the Socialist Manifesto of 3329 |
| Message | Norway :) |
| Date | 00:04:02, July 05, 2012 CET | From | New Democratic Party | To | Debating the Socialist Manifesto of 3329 |
| Message | In a real economy, this would crash the economy. No doubt about it. |
| Date | 13:10:30, July 05, 2012 CET | From | Socialist Workers Party | To | Debating the Socialist Manifesto of 3329 |
| Message | Nevaaaah |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 240 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 510 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Voters have an extra appreciation for bills that actually get passed, so if you want to maximally take profit from your votes, make sure you compromise with others. |
| Random quote: "A prince never lacks legitimate reasons to break his promise." - Niccolo Machiavelli |