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Bill: Let's talk cultural protocols
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3969
Description[?]:
| Lifting up old thread from old Conservative party. Here is the current protocols, http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=384694 I think we need to update a few things including, the monarchy and the Royal family's house nane (because it's now Adlerberg-Villayn), the religion section (maybe we can include a few atheists and agnostics as well as a few Catholics/Patriarchals), ethnicity coukd use a bit of editing to reflect our Liberal immigration policies in the 3800s, language seems fine but could use a bit of tweaking. What are your thoughts? Please share them. Link to old thread: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=449332 |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:49:13, November 16, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | Completely agree Immigration means population should be around 85% native, 15% not. |
| Date | 15:52:13, November 16, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | Lets discuss what we want to change and then I start a new bill, to vote on. |
| Date | 02:03:44, November 17, 2015 CET | From | United Luthori | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | What about: Ethnicity: 85% Luthori 10% Aldurian 3% Hulstrian 2% Beiteynuese Religion: 90% Holy Luthori Church 2% Traditionalist Lutheran Church 1% Yeudism 7% None |
| Date | 06:14:12, November 17, 2015 CET | From | National Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | Should Luthorians be based on British people instead of solely English? |
| Date | 07:11:36, November 17, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | OOC: PCP: As I told in the last thread: the last protocol missed 2-3% of the population is swedish/german nobility that has resided in Adlerberg and neighbouring villages. RPL: No I don't think we ever used scottish names for example.... |
| Date | 10:11:50, November 17, 2015 CET | From | Communist Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | OOC: As a long-serving player (I'm not a newbie if that's what you're all thinking!) I'm going to urge you to respect the country's historical culture and cultural protocols. Yes, update it to reflect immigration trends, but please don't mess around with it too much otherwise you'll ruin it. For many, Luthori = England. I'm not sure how 'making it British' would improve anything, or how you'd explain fitting in a Celtic population into the country narly 2,000 game years after it started. We already have Welsh populations in the game, Aloria should be a Welsh majority country, for example. It is a shame Scots and Irish groups have vanished, but they were never in Luthori in the first place. Also, we should definitely have an immigrant population from Ibutho, as well as from the colonies that were based on e.g. far-east asia or India, for example. To not have an immigrants from Ibutho - a country we share a significant border with - is scandalous. The same goes for Hobrazia. |
| Date | 07:19:52, November 18, 2015 CET | From | Luthori National Union Party | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | I agree with the CPL. The Cultural Protocols should reflect immigration from nations that make sense. The proper term for the Jewish equivalent group from Beiteynu is Yeudish, FYI. Ibutho and Hobrazia would make sense, the German descended population that settled near Adlerberg does need to be added, ex-colonials, Jakanians, Aldurians, Hutorians, all make sense to have as well. I really don't see anything wrong with the religion numbers. As I have stated before, I think it would be a good idea to add basic information concerning the amount of republicans and monarchists within the nation in order to end the inevitable shouting matches that occur whenever republicans attempt to end the monarchy. Just a thought. |
| Date | 10:09:26, November 18, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | LNUP: I could agree to your first point however it needs to be stated that "german" names is far more common than the last cultural protocol stated, especially in the nobility. Yes I think we should add numbers over monarchists-republicans and believe we could have 20-80? |
| Date | 07:39:27, November 19, 2015 CET | From | National Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | We should possibly add religious vs non-religious too. Obviously its a majority Christian country (whatever they call it in the game), but how religious is the overall population in terms of church going. That might be too specific but just a thought. And what about the current flag? Should we go back to the old Luthori flag. |
| Date | 08:35:36, November 19, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | Good points.... But as it is in today's Sweden. Many are members of the State Church but a few visits services, however churchgoing in RP might be varying over time depending on economical issues, internal church reforms, popular bishops and if dominating parties are religious. Which flag du you have in mind? This was the flag the nation had when I started in the 2400's. |
| Date | 02:01:40, November 20, 2015 CET | From | National Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | Looking at the political opinions of the nation could also give us insight to that matter. The original flag I'm talking about is this one: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/particracy/images/2/2b/Luthoriflag.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20130618122328 |
| Date | 09:08:54, November 20, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Let's talk cultural protocols |
| Message | RPL: Good! You could propose that flag |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 225 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 220 |
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