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Bill: The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)

Details

Submitted by[?]: Democratic Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 3983

Description[?]:

This act aims to strengthen and grow our economy further by introducing more freedom to the private sector.

Article One:
a) This article allows any person under the age of 16 to enter regulated vocation, this excludes:
a.a) children not in full-time education.
a.b) children under the age of 12.
a.c) children who do not have the written consent of their parent/guardian/ward and the chief pastoral carer at their school.
b) This article guarantees that the children are entitled to:
b.a) a safe working environment meaning that:
b.a.a) all those who work alongside the children to complete standard criminal background checks.
b.a.b) the work itself isn't dangerous.
b.a.c) the work itself isn't incredibly taxing.
b.b) The children are entitled to the minimum wage.
b.c) The children are entitled to extra credit in higher education.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:00:30, February 12, 2016 CET
FromHutamale Hut Hut Tamale Parking Ticket
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
Message"Mr. Speaker,


The proposal to legalise child labour is shocking and disturbing. This would be a huge step backwards for Hutori as a country, it would be a huge embarassment and would take from our youth their one chance to be naive and care-free.

Do not lead Hutori down the path of binding the poorest children to broken economics. This would drag Hutori down to the level of hellholes such as Deltaria, Jelbania and Davostan.

If this is what the Democratic-Republican monarchist-supporting party has in store for us this is going to be a very long and treacherous 4 years."


- Senator Uki Yakone, Leader PPAH

Date21:16:14, February 12, 2016 CET
FromDemocratic Party
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
Message"Mr. Speaker,

This is a perfect example of how a socialist likes to portray free market proposals that are beneficial to the public as being "shocking and disturbing". The honourable gentleman states that our proposal "would take from our youth their one chance to be naive and carefree" little does he understand that the current policy on child labour is most restrictive of all.

When I was a boy, I became an apprentice to my father. I made a reasonable amount of money for my age but, beyond that, I learned valuable lessons. I learned about the real world with the safety net of my father's protection, a safety net I want to provide for all children. I learned how to work as part of a team. I learned how to operate a computer. I learned how to save money and more importantly, how not to spend it. We live in a vocational world and if children want to go out and learn about it whilst gaining valuable skills in the process, who are we to stop them? It is our duty to provide them with access whilst protecting them from the dangers of employment. This is not slavery, this is an extended form of education. This will not " lead Hutori down the path of binding the poorest children to broken economics" as the honourable gentleman puts it, but it will prepare them for the future of competing in a growing economy. One that wouldn't exist under his party's policies!

How dare he call our system broken economics, he supports "the gospel of envy and the equal sharing of misery" as a great man once said. I ask him to belay his comments regarding our system and also relating to the next four years. They are incorrect."

~ President Enitter

Date22:41:13, February 12, 2016 CET
FromHutamale Hut Hut Tamale Parking Ticket
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
Message"Mr. Speaker,


The current law enables children to have a childood, the President is simply proposing to take this away from them in order to boost the profits of a few major companies. The current law gives children the free time to play, explore, socialise and be creative without the pressures of adulthood. Childhood is a short period of life which should be embraced and cherished. Taking this away from them means that the poorest children - those who will be forced into work by their parents - wont be able to enjoy this liberty and they will become slaves to broken economic neoliberal system.

I sincerely hope that other parties in the Senate will consider the argument presented by my party and at the very least persuade the DRP to drop Article 1."


- Senator Uki Yakone, Leader PPAH

Date23:17:09, February 12, 2016 CET
FromDemocratic Party
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
Message"Mr. Speaker,

Again, he fails to realise, this - in no way - forces children to work. This merely creates an option for children to work a few hours a month as part of their education. No child is being forced into anything, no child is being put in danger and no child is being enslaved.

He states that I aim "to boost the profits of a few major companies" but this simply isn't true. This will be an opportunity for children to learn about how to find and apply for jobs in their local community. Should we be done with grammar and mathematics or should we also ensure our children know how to function in an adult world?

Their innocence and freedom continue to be very much protected by this bill. We emphasise for the honourable gentleman that the work the children do will be heavily regulated. They shall not work in dangerous jobs. They shall not work without pay. They shall not work without the knowledge and consent of both their parents and their chief members of pastoral care at their respective schools.

Doesn't the honourable member understand that this will be a very small part of their childhood that will ultimately teach them some of the most valuable lessons of life? And, can I confirm that the honourable gentleman understands that this bill does not make work compulsory for children? Finally, can I confirm that the honourable gentleman would rather have it that the children, once adults, would be thrown into the deep end of the pool of vocation instead of our method of allowing them to dip their toes into that same pool whilst providing armbands and holding them from the inside?

Of course he would! He's a socialist. Under his method, these children would be starving with no prospects. At least we allow them the opportunity to learn about the real world with safety.

Might I also add that this bill conforms with the guidelines set by the Internation Terran Bank.

This socialist is ignorant, he'd rather have our future generation ill-equipped and jobless than with opportunity and confidence!"

~President Enitter


Date23:18:53, February 12, 2016 CET
FromFederal Heritage Party of Hutori
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
MessageMr. Speaker,

Respectfully I believe the term children is being misused here. I think the correct term would be minors and we agree with the DRP that under certain circumstances the ablity for minors to hold a job is vital. However, we would like to reccomend to the DRP that they outline what regulations would be imposed, what age groups would be eligible and what occupations would be allowed.

Sen. Stephen Johnson (F)

Date23:36:47, February 12, 2016 CET
FromDemocratic Party
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
MessageMr Speaker,

I thank the honourable gentleman for raising his concern, the relevant points have been added to the description of the bill and shall be read out as of now:

Article One:
a) This article allows any person under the age of 16 to enter regulated vocation, this excludes:
a.a) children not in full-time education.
a.b) children under the age of 12.
a.c) children who do not have the written consent of their parent/guardian/ward and the chief pastoral carer at their school.
b) This article guarantees that the children are entitled to:
b.a) a safe working environment meaning that:
b.a.a) all those who work alongside the children to complete standard criminal background checks.
b.a.b) the work itself isn't dangerous.
b.a.c) the work itself isn't incredibly taxing.
b.b) The children are entitled to the minimum wage.
b.c) The children are entitled to extra credit in higher education.

Date23:38:52, February 12, 2016 CET
FromDemocratic Party
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
Message(OOC: In addition to the above)

I hope he finds the clarification useful. If possible, I move that we go on to a pseudo-vote, with all those who support the bill stating so with their common "Aye" and all those opposed with their common "Noe.

President Enitter

Date23:40:20, February 12, 2016 CET
FromDemocratic Party
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
Message(OOC: "Noe".

Date23:42:32, February 12, 2016 CET
FromDemocratic Party
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
Message(OOC: Correction to the penultimate post: "Noe". The ultimate post was not a vote)

Date00:24:10, February 13, 2016 CET
FromDemocratic Party
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
MessageOOC: Oops, forgot to remove the consultancy stage nonsense. Disregard it.

Date17:30:45, February 13, 2016 CET
FromNational Progressive Union
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
MessageMr. Speaker,

We agree with Article 3 (regarding Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy) and Article 6 (regarding Train Operating Companies), but can not in good conscience vote for this bill as we oppose the other acts included.

Samuel Williams
Chair of the NDP

Date19:23:45, February 13, 2016 CET
FromHutamale Hut Hut Tamale Parking Ticket
ToDebating the The Economy Act (Consultation Stage)
Message"Mr. Speaker,


We urge the Workers Party to block these proposals which will devastate childhoods and the working-class. These proposals are about boosting the profits of DRP paymasters rather than bettering the Hutorian economy.

Rampant, nasty and divisive neoliberalism must be stopped in its tracks."


- Senator Uki Yakone, Leader PPAH

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Total Seats: 124

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Total Seats: 92

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Total Seats: 34


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