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Bill: Quota Reduction

Details

Submitted by[?]: Labour Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 4106

Description[?]:

The National Assembly cannot handle the sheer number of bills coming its way at the moment.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:55:18, October 16, 2016 CET
FromRevolutionary Peoples Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageNo surprise the Labour Party is trying to restrict democracy.

Date17:02:50, October 16, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageYour party is called 'Revolutionary' yet you accuse us of being anti-democratic. In the existence of the Labour Party, we have received a total of 195, 204, 911 votes from Kalistani citizens. I ask the Speaker from the Fascist Anti-Kalistan Party (RPP for short), how many votes have you received to place you in your position?

Date17:24:05, October 16, 2016 CET
FromRevolutionary Peoples Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageWe are a new party and so we haven't contested any elections. However that doesn't mean that we have no legitimacy as we serve as an alternative choice for the people in this nation who are fed up with communist scum ruling this nation.

Date17:29:46, October 16, 2016 CET
FromCentre Democrats Party (CDP)
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageThe CDP disagrees with Labour on this. Every party should be able to produce Bills and legislation as they see fit. Other parties need to vote, or abstain, if they feel they have an oppinion on national legislation. Democracy can't be put into numbers.


Date17:37:34, October 16, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageWell, frankly, the rise of the two parties who so far oppose this bill are the direct cause of it. We have never had so many bills of so little consequence posed by parties who do not even hold seats! How can this government ever hope to look after its people if we are constantly dealing with Fascist proposals by the RPP.

The fact that we are referred to as Communist only serves to prove the point that this party is a complete joke!

Date17:48:12, October 16, 2016 CET
FromCentre Democrats Party (CDP)
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageWe understand the concerns of Labour, but disagree on the methods forward. Maybe we should open a "asking questions" page for the new parties? That way we can debate without proposing new Bills.

After debating amongst ourselves we can partly agree with this Bill, if the number is 30 instead of 20. That balances the act more for us.

Date17:59:11, October 16, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageThere is question time, located here: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=477113

Please ensure any questions you ask conform to the rules.

Date18:20:49, October 16, 2016 CET
FromSocialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageOOC: Excuse me, Kevin07. But how long have you played in Kalistan? And more importantly, why did you come to Kalistan? And more importantly, how can you POSSIBLY believe that the people in Kalistan are fed up with "communist scum"? You know nothing about this country, that I can tell. You have taken no time to actually read our laws and RP house rules, from what I can tell. You just show up, and declare that the people are fed up with the communist scum here and launch a fascist Party, when if you knew ANYTHING about Kalistan, you would know that we have a 2000 year history of being a hard libertarian, anti-police, and leftist country. The "people" aren't fed up with leftism in this country, and you claiming as much won't make it so. I am asking you to learn about the country, and you will see just how foreign these ideas you are proposing truly are to this country.

But at the very least, please don't use that BS trope about the people being fed up with "communist scum". First off, there are no communists in Kalistan, and you would know that if you knew anything about the history here, and second of all, the people aren't "fed up" with something which doesn't exist.

Date18:24:00, October 16, 2016 CET
FromSocialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageIC: We will have to vote against this bill. While it will limit the ability of fascists to put forward anti-Kalistani omnibus bills, it will also limit the ability of Leftists to counter them.

Date18:25:46, October 16, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageUnderstood. We had considered that this was the case but attempted it anyway.

Date18:41:20, October 16, 2016 CET
FromSocialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageEh- hell with it... With less proposals, there will be less for us to reverse.

Date18:45:58, October 16, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageOnce the early storm has passed over from these new parties, we can re-evaluate our position.

Date18:50:39, October 16, 2016 CET
FromSocialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageAgreed.

Date19:33:51, October 16, 2016 CET
FromRevolutionary Peoples Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageWhen you say that Kalistan is a socialist nation, how do you know because there are only ever socialist/communist parties that contest elections so who else can they vote for.

Date19:41:16, October 16, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageWhat about the Conservative Independence Party, the Libertarian Democrats of Kalistan, the Kalistan Unionist Party, the Neo-Nationalist Party, the Tolerance Party, the Monarchist Party of Kalistan, the National Libertarian Party, the Kalistan National Democratic Party or the Kalistan Libertarian Party?

All of the above have contested elections at some point in the same period during which the Labour Party has. Are they all Communists in the mind of the RPP?

Date19:51:24, October 16, 2016 CET
FromCentre Democrats Party (CDP)
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageThe Centre Democrats are dissapointed in the authoritarian tendencies of the Labour Party and the SPoK. We have tried to debate with the socialist parties, but they seem to be too afraid of new ideas and influences? So they propose all kinds of legislation (like this one) to hamper the influence of other parties. New parties don't get a chance in this country. From now on, I fear we will have to increase our opposition and tone towards elections, because in our mind the people have the authority, not Labour or SPoK.

Date20:05:59, October 16, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageAUTHORITARIAN! I know we produce some extremely mind-altering substances here in Kalistan but where did you get this particular variety? We, the party who support no restrictions on tobacco and alcohol nor do we believe in government intervention in sexual affairs, we don't believe in arming thugs to roam the streets nor do we support the drawing of arbitrary lines between nation, are being called authoritarian! Who is it that makes these accusation? A party who believe in forcing citizens to register their personal information with the government, establish liberty-restricting borders, who want to destroy the militias ( a bastion of our free society!) is calling us authoritarian. I say, you have a cheek!

The people may have the authority but they have elected the Labour and Socialist Party to govern them, not the CDP and not the RPP. New parties don't get a chance because the parties we have perform a fantastic job as it is.

Date21:08:00, October 16, 2016 CET
FromSocialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageI am just about to propose that legislative sessions be 72 months, rather than 36 months. If the CDP is concerned about us hampering the influence of other Parties, perhaps the left should live up to that reputation.

Date21:12:29, October 16, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageOh, why leave it there? What is the use in elections at all.. How about we just appoint a politburo?

Date21:16:57, October 16, 2016 CET
FromSocialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
ToDebating the Quota Reduction
MessageWell, we are all apparently communist scum... so it would be part and parcel for the label that these new folks keep slapping on us without knowing a thing about Kalistan...

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 750

no
  

Total Seats: 0

abstain
  

Total Seats: 0


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