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Bill: Political Equality in Titles Act of 4108
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hutori Republican Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4109
Description[?]:
| Description: This bill will will remove politically oppressive remnants of the Hutorian Monarchy with the elimination of titles of nobility. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Titles of nobility.
Old value:: Titles of nobility may be granted by the government and any other political body designated by it.
Current: Titles of nobility may be granted only by the Head of State.
Proposed: No titles of nobility are granted or recognised, their use is forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:10:45, October 20, 2016 CET | From |  Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Political Equality in Titles Act of 4108 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker We'd ask what titles of nobility are remaining in Hutori? The Royal Family of Hutori was officially extinguished with the death of the last Royal Pretender, Sarah of House Steuart-Adelia in 4090, which also ended the final remnants of any holders of any titles in the country. To which Royal titles are the HRA referring to? Lisa Probert (L-AD) Leader of the Liberal Party of Hutori Senator for Axminister Centre |
| Date | 20:25:32, October 22, 2016 CET | From | Hutori Republican Alliance | To | Debating the Political Equality in Titles Act of 4108 |
| Message | Mt. Speaker, This is not a matter of titles remaining, but rather that no citizen ought to be granted any distinctions that place them above the general populace. |
| Date | 20:48:36, October 22, 2016 CET | From | National Progress Party | To | Debating the Political Equality in Titles Act of 4108 |
| Message | ''Mr. Speaker, I totally agree with the HRA. Even if title of nobility doesn't exist anymore we must send a powerful message to the population. Every Hutorians are equal and no one is above the others.'' -Anderson Armstrong Senator of the National Progress Party |
| Date | 21:16:58, October 22, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Political Equality in Titles Act of 4108 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker I ask the Senators of the HRA and NPP whether or not they support awarding medals and awards to citizens of the Republic, civilian or military, who have performed great acts in support of the Republic? Lisa Probert Leader of the Liberal Party of Hutori Senator for Axminister Centre |
| Date | 21:19:41, October 22, 2016 CET | From | Hutori Republican Alliance | To | Debating the Political Equality in Titles Act of 4108 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I would note that an award and or recognition and a title of nobility are two separate things. |
| Date | 15:14:25, October 23, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Political Equality in Titles Act of 4108 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker In fact by definition by honouring them and giving them a distinction we are raising them above the average citizen of the Republic and showing them as the exemplary citizen for their acts. We note again Mr. Speaker, title of Nobility do not exist anymore in Hutori today. The closest we get are Members of the Order of the Gold Lion, who are honoured as members entirely for their life long service to the country and their feats that most average citizens would never be expected to achieve. Would the HRA and NPP deny the citizens that were entered into the Order, six of which were ardent Republicans, and three of which were Founders of the Republic, didn't deserve the simple Honourific that was given to them? Lisa Probert Leader of the Liberal Party of Hutori Senator for Axminister Centre |
| Date | 15:18:57, October 23, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Political Equality in Titles Act of 4108 |
| Message | OOC: this is the fifth time I've been forced to defend this. I should note that the Titles of Nobility are a loophole becyase no other law fulfills our needs for it; the Order of the Gold Lion. These are Honourifics given to public servants who dedicated a life long of service to Hutori or/and performed truly extraordinary feats that are worthy of recognition. By repealing this law, you are in fact stating these people don't deserve to be recognized for their actions. Further it's no different then members of any award show, people who recieve Meritorious Service Awards or Medals... the literally only difference is that we added Sir or Dame to the front of their name... very similar to how a Doctor gets added to anyone who had a PhD/MD or a Lawyer gets esquire added to the end for theirs. |
| Date | 23:35:32, October 23, 2016 CET | From | Hutori Republican Alliance | To | Debating the Political Equality in Titles Act of 4108 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It is of the opinion of the HRA that titles such as Sir or Dame are not required to remember those who have done a great service to the Republic. The memories of great leaders and individuals past are enshrined in the history of our nation without the need to create a title to recognize them. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 279 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 186 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 135 |
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