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Bill: Constitutional Reform of November 4165

Details

Submitted by[?]: Konservative Union

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 4166

Description[?]:

Accordingly to this constitutional reform Dorvisch Republic shall be transofrmed to Bundesrepublik Dorvik - luthorian translation: Federal Republic of Dorvik.

Name of the country: Bundesrepublik Dorvik

Coat of Arms of Bundesrepublik Dorvik: https://i.imgsafe.org/1a2416c854.png

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date17:32:45, February 13, 2017 CET
FromFortschrittsvereinigung
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageThe proposed national anthem lyrics has the word "Germany" in them as opposed to Dorvik. Also I prefer the flag design with the stars added on the side, but I'm good with the proposed one here. Regions don't have an Engish translate beside them like other features, and I'd sooner stick nearer the 400 mark for seats.

Date17:33:29, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: omg i've forgotten to change it hahahahaha

Date17:48:35, February 13, 2017 CET
FromLiberalen Partei
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageWhy is it 598

Date17:48:56, February 13, 2017 CET
FromLiberalen Partei
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageOOC: and not something more like 600

Date17:54:45, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: i wanted it to be more like real-life Germany, which does not have a round number.

Date17:55:05, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: in Bundestag

Date17:58:04, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: to justify it for the rp we can say that one representative is for 165 thousand citizens, and if we would implement proportionate voting system it would be more realistic

Date18:11:06, February 13, 2017 CET
FromVorwärts Republik!
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageOOC: I can't see an issue with thes proposals, I'd write up a longer post but I'm on mobile at the moment

Date18:31:45, February 13, 2017 CET
FromFortschrittsvereinigung
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageOOC: To keep continuity I'd recommend a translation for the HOS too. As for the seats I'd rather keep it much lower, nearly 600's too much

Date18:32:17, February 13, 2017 CET
FromFortschrittsvereinigung
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageOOC: Also I'd advocate an odd number to avoid deadlocks. Maybe something ending in a 5.

Date18:35:22, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: number of seats was reduced to 495 and the translation was added

Date20:24:00, February 13, 2017 CET
FromFortschrittsvereinigung
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Message495's better, an odd number and would take us back nearer the original figure. From a small government party though, I'd recommend something more like 425 or 455.

Date20:29:50, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: well, i think that the number of seats does not have a lot in common with the size of the government. we want to form a more federative state and its a common known fact that federations have bicameral parliaments which means more seats. I know that we cannot have two chambers in the game so we can rp that with more seats in the bundesversammlung.

Date21:16:29, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKommunistische partei
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageOoc: why 2 chambers? How would that roleplay work? Because isn't hard to find something that 9 parties has to agree on?

Date21:22:28, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: once again, there will be one chamber called bundesversammlung. just one. no two chambers. what i've mentioned is only a tendency that a federal states have more seats in their parliaments diue to the fact that they have two chambers in it. the game mechanics does not allow two chambers and there is going to be just one chamber but with increased number of seats.

Date21:36:24, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageDear Members of probably the last session of the State Council,

the voting on the most important bill in the last couple of decades has just started, therefore I ask you to cast your votes. Our citizens count on You.

Heike Grossberg,
President of Dorvisch Republic.

Date21:39:21, February 13, 2017 CET
FromVorwärts Republik!
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageOOC: so regional chambers based of the results in each area?

Date21:45:30, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: that's a reform we have to implement later in the future because now we have a equal representation for each region. we can change it to proportional system which will maybe differ the number of seats in regions.

Date21:46:11, February 13, 2017 CET
FromVorwärts Republik!
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageOoc: Mhm that makes sense, only if populations actually varied massively

Date21:53:16, February 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: yes indeed, it may vary the seats by one or two.

Date21:25:35, February 14, 2017 CET
FromDorvische Ordenspartei
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
MessageIC: Long Live the Bundesrepublik.

Date21:56:08, February 14, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform of November 4165
Messageooc: if you check the wikia pages regularly I've updated the nation page http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Bundesrepublik_Dorvik

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
         

Total Seats: 400

no

    Total Seats: 0

    abstain

      Total Seats: 0

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