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Bill: Social Justice for Abortions Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4201
Description[?]:
| Mister Speaker, We strongly disagree with the SP's " Abortion Funding Act of 4200 " because of its indiscriminate ways of handling the subsidies given to people wanting to perform an abortion. Not everyone should get a subsidy for an abortion: that privilege should only be given to those who can't afford an abortion otherwise. I'd like to point out that this is not a discussion about the legality of abortions in general: Conservatives, please look at the economic perspective of this Act. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy of the government concerning the funding of abortions
Old value:: The government only funds abortions for medical emergencies.
Current: The government only funds abortions for medical emergencies.
Proposed: The government provides abortion funding only for low-income earners.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:14:38, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Vorwärts Republik! | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Considering the bill to allow subsidies abortions will fail, we are willing to support this measure as a temporary compromise. If Dorvik First are willing to support this move we will also, as one step closer to the aim of free and legal abortions. Beatrix Luksic |
| Date | 16:22:29, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mister Speaker, We thank Vorwärts for their pragmatic approach. We all want the best for our nation and we believe that this bill is better than the one proposed by the SP. Thank you. Robert Oberburg, Candidate for MP for the DAF. |
| Date | 16:59:25, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mister Speaker, The Federal Chancellor and his party should be ashamed of themselves for voting no on this Act. We are speaking about the lives of many women and future children who could be born in a hostile environment. The KU is out of touch with society: can't you see the suffering of all these people? Thank you. Randolf Urquhart, leader of the DAF. |
| Date | 17:21:31, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr. Urquhart, The only one who should be ashamed here is you. We support abortions but only in medical emergencies. Along with the Pragmatic Party, we've implemented a bill which clearly states what are those medical condition with one additional social-economic condition. (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=515457). We as a party with respect towards values of hosianism are against abortion on will and we see no reason a state should fund this procedure. Cease with this burlesque Mr. Urquhart, yes we see the suffering and that's why we've implemented the Pregnancy Termination Law Reform of June 4200, we will never support abortion on will as we consider it to be inhuman. One does not have the authority to kill innocent child, and please do not bring that biological argument like "it is not human, it is a fetus". That's a human being, an innocent human being and any woman do not have authority or legal right to terminate its life. Period. Laurent Scherzinger, Federal Chancellor. |
| Date | 17:28:51, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mister Speaker, The chancellor and his party of spoiled brats once again show no sympathy for those who do not possess the financial measures required to terminate a pregnancy. How do you look at these people, Scherzinger? Like they are plebs? Besides: A bunch of men speaking about what a women can and can't do? How weird is that! You act like it is murder, but sometimes it is in favor of the child to terminate a pregnancy, like after incest, rape or when the will have to live in a hostile environment no child should live in. Nothing is worse than hearing a child say " I wish I was never born ", so at least try to prevent that from happening. Anika Rosendorf, Candidate for MP for the DAF. |
| Date | 17:29:48, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mister Speaker, Maybe the Pragmatische Partei should rename itself to Puppet Party, since it truly is the KU's dog. Jürgen Rotstein |
| Date | 17:35:25, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr Rotstein, We've done nothing to provoke that outburst but disagree with you politically. We actually have multiple times gone against the KU. Over 35% of bills we've had different opinions on. There is no reason to call anyone else a dog. Tirza Sommer Minister of Justice Leader of the Pragmatic Party |
| Date | 17:43:04, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mrs. Rosendorf, can't you read, did you not hear what I've just said? In the Pregnancy Termination Law Reform of June 4200, article 3 clearly states, that if one will not be financially or socially capable of raising the child, she is eligible to undergo an abortion procedure. And its cost will be covered by the state. Article 1 and 2 clearly state that if a woman became pregnant as a result of rape she has the right to undergo abortion and if the fetus is impaired or endangers the mother's life, a woman has the right to terminate the pregnancy. READ THE BILL BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH. One more thing, Mrs. President Lehmann, I would like you to order a break in the session of the FA in order to call a Committee on Federal Assembly Ethnics as Mr. Rotstein's word are contrary to the parliamentary language. Laurent Scherzinger, Federal Chancellor. |
| Date | 17:45:24, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr Scherzinger, Request approved. I call a break of this assembly and order the CFAE to investigate Mr Rotstein's words. Katarina Lehmann President of the Federal Assembly |
| Date | 17:49:10, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Speaker, Pardon Mister Rosenburg's language, but we do ask the PP why they break with their pragmatic roots on this occasion? And besides: So it is okay to call other members of parliament a traitor, but calling them a puppet is wrong? And on the subject of your bill: Why won't you accept this bill if it's so much like the bill we currently have? I feel like it is more clearly stated if we adopt this Act instead, but that's up to you, Mister Chancellor. Randolf Urquhart |
| Date | 17:52:18, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr Scherzinger, Warning issued to the traitor comment, but calling someone a dog is worse. Katarina Lehmann President of the Federal Assembly |
| Date | 17:52:45, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, calling them a dog surely is. Laurent Scherzinger, Federal Chancellor. |
| Date | 17:53:38, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, calling them a dog surely is. Laurent Scherzinger, Federal Chancellor. |
| Date | 17:58:59, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Speaker, Providing the context: First of all: I wasn't calling an individual a dog. Second: I used the word dog in the context of loyal follower, not as an insult in the form of calling someone dirty, dumb or anything like that. Calling an actual individual a traitor is worse, in my opinion, but I leave that up to the commission. Any real consequences attached to this statement would be a total joke in my eyes, however. Jürgen Rotstein |
| Date | 17:59:57, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr Scherzinger, The CFAE has given you an official warning. Katarina Lehmann President of the Federal Assembly |
| Date | 18:05:26, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Miss Lehmann, I believe that you mean Herr Rotstein? I wouldn't mind it if Scherzinger got a warning, however. Randolf Urquhart |
| Date | 18:07:26, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr Scherzinger, Rotstein. But Scherzinger must too calm down a little., Katarina Lehmann President of the Federal Assembly |
| Date | 18:18:29, April 25, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Speaker, Sounds fair. Jürgen Rotstein |
| Date | 14:40:43, April 26, 2017 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, A fairly boisterous atmosphere in the National Assembly is there not? How about getting back to the issue at hand! Whilst we can respect the DAF's rationale behind this bill, we shall vote against as we believe a topic as controversial and splitting as abortion shouldn't be funded by tax payers money as some of those taxpayers may have a strong moral opposition to abortion. Medial emergencies are a different matter which is why we only support the continued funding of that. Angela Gladstone, FD Leader |
| Date | 15:40:40, April 26, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Social Justice for Abortions Act |
| Message | Speaker, We thank Miss Gladstone for her statements. We may disagree, but we respect her opinion. Randolf Urquhart |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 174 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 331 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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