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Bill: Income tax proposal of August 4221
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change income taxes. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 4222
Description[?]:
| The Social-Union Nationalist propose to adjust the government's income tax policy to better address the economic situation of the Solentian Social Republic. |
Proposals
Article 1
We propose to alter income tax brackets to the following setup. Information about the current income tax system can be found here.
| Bracket | Tax | Estimated Revenue |
| > 10,000 SOL | 7% | 39,275,000,000 SOL |
| > 20,000 SOL | 8% | 35,818,000,000 SOL |
| > 30,000 SOL | 10% | 61,705,000,000 SOL |
| > 50,000 SOL | 12% | 76,714,000,000 SOL |
| > 100,000 SOL | 15% | 22,214,000,000 SOL | Total | 235,726,000,000 SOL |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:08:39, June 05, 2017 CET | From |  SUN | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | This is about how much we would need minimum in order to run the country. * Health and social services needs to be around 80,000,000,000 minimum considering we have universal healthcare and welfare programs * Successful. moderate nation states spend at least 2% of GDP minimum on infrastructure and transport, which means billions, not millions, so the power grid doesn't burn down. interstates become gravel roads, sewer systems explode with cholera, etc. * Internal Affairs can not function properly without a billion a or two minimum, considering they have a national police force and provide national security. |
| Date | 06:32:46, June 05, 2017 CET | From | SUN | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | These tax rates are low compared to the rest of the developed world. Istalia http://classic.particracy.net/budget.php?nationid=39 Luthori Republic http://classic.particracy.net/budget.php?nationid=11 Vanuku http://classic.particracy.net/budget.php?nationid=48 Kazulia http://classic.particracy.net/budget.php?nationid=53 |
| Date | 06:40:25, June 05, 2017 CET | From | SUN | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | We ask both the SDP and Unionists to vote for this bill, so that we have enough to have a healthy budget. If we are collecting too much revenue, we can always adjust the taxes lower if need be. Better to have too much than too little. Then we can build and pass a budget so we are no longer going bankrupt and the nation is properly funded and not falling apart. We ask the Republicans to come to their senses, but for now they seem dead-set on imploding the country. |
| Date | 07:29:06, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | We refuse to support this bill. First of all we can have the state run the police force. The federal government should never have a national police force. Second the infrastructure can be privatized and run by the states as well. When you want low taxes some things must be sacrificed. We don't need to provide that much welfare and healthcare since we have lower taxes so the lower taxes allow people to use money on that stuff. This is more fficient and gives consumers choice and control of their lives. We won't let entitlements grow. We don't want the country to implode. Tax increases will hurt the economy and they have already been raised. We need to shrink government and should work on keeping our defense strong. This tax is too high. OCC: I'm from the US so the US doesn't have a federal police force |
| Date | 07:32:41, June 05, 2017 CET | From | SUN | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | You want to sell all the roads to private owners? How would that work? OOC: Are you aware of the FBI? |
| Date | 07:47:33, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | OCC: THE FBI doesn't describe itself as a police force. Here is their description from the website. https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/is-the-fbi-a-type-of-national-police-force Is the FBI a type of national police force? No. The FBI is a national security organization that works closely with many partners around the country and across the globe to address the most serious security threats facing the nation. We are one of many federal agencies with law enforcement responsibilities. |
| Date | 07:52:07, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | On the topic of private roads major roads could be sold as toll roads. This would allow companies to bid on roads to buy out from the federal government. The company would be in charge if maintaining and expanding the road. It would retain its federal highway example.smaller roads would be handed to the states to manage. major interstate roads would be given to private. OCC: in the US my idea would be for major freeways like I-5. I-90, I-10 to be privatized. Smaller freeway beaches like I-405 (the 405), I-210 would be sent to the states to be managed. They would retain the federal numbers but I-5 may be broken into multiple companies. |
| Date | 08:25:13, June 05, 2017 CET | From | SUN | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | ooc: Yes, police are law enforcement. Police enforce laws. The FBI enforces laws. I don't care about your crazy ideas to make roads private. I give up. |
| Date | 09:24:46, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Social Democratic Party (SDP) | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | Selling everything is not a proper solution. We need to give the people a strong government in specific areas. Health care, education infrastructure.. Those departments should not be in private hands! The government needs to give a big signal here. We call every party to vote in favor of this bill! |
| Date | 15:59:45, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | We may disagree on that idea but I value SUN support on certain key legislation to protect traditional values. I value SDP for supporting us to stop segregation and slavery and racism. We will look forward to working with the two parties in the future. |
| Date | 03:26:05, June 06, 2017 CET | From | SUN | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | The People's Party can be heroes by voting yes and allowing healthcare and other national programs to be properly funded. |
| Date | 03:31:40, June 06, 2017 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 4221 |
| Message | We applaud the grand liberal party's stance against tax increases. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 338 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 329 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 82 |
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