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Bill: Gender Right Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Social Liberal Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 4231

Description[?]:

This bill allows every individual to have the inviolable right to decide on their gender orientation.

Lucy Davis
Candidate for Health and Social Services for Social Liberal Party

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:29:21, June 22, 2017 CET
FromHutori Progressives
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
Message"Mr Speaker,

We believe that passing this bill is only just. It's about time that we allow people to identify themselves as to however they want to be identified. It is only right in a truly free society.

Thank you,"
Brandon Green
Leader of the Hutori Progressives and the IPA

Date15:37:25, June 22, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageMr. Speaker

We are glad that Hutori Progressives are in agreement with our idea of progressive and more kind society for our nation.

Martin McCaskill
Leader of Social Liberal Party

Date16:12:41, June 22, 2017 CET
FromFederal Heritage Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

Why must we abandon helping the mentally ill for humoring their delusion? Gender dysphoria is a very real illness let us research treatment methods not perpetuate their misery.

Senator Wyatt McLaughlin (F-AD)
Federalist Senate Leader

Date16:37:05, June 22, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

I think that my colleagues of Federalist Party really don't understand the matter. If we treat people who don't identify themself with their own body as a "simple" mental patient that we must recover, we'll never be able to give real help. We must allow this people to feel free and not to feel as a invalid.

Date18:49:48, June 22, 2017 CET
FromFederal Heritage Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

It seems that the SLP misunderstands both mental illness and the facts. How a mentally ill person feels is rarely the path to recovery. You do not let a depressed person linger in their feelings. Nor would you let a Bi-Polar person wallow in their's. The SLP is under the mistaken impression that a person's emotions and feelings trumps objective reality. The facts of the matter are that according to the ICDC sucide rates of those suffering from Gender dysphoria are much higher than the national average regardless of whether or not they've embraced the gender they "feel" like they should be. The only reduction in sucide from this demographic is those who have been treated at a mental health facility. In fact according to the ICDC and the Hutorian Association for Psychological Health those who were treated were 80% less likely to commit suicide.

Senator Wyatt McLaughlin (F-AD)
Federalist Senate Leader

Date20:29:44, June 22, 2017 CET
FromNational Progress Party
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageOOC: because not only is this sentence kind of vague but it also seem like you are creating fake statistic just to serve your own opinion. I mean don't get me wrong, it's normal to sometime use fact that you have created as long as they are realistic. But ''those who were treated were 80% less likely to commit suicide'' that seem like a radical claim. And what do you mean exactly by treated? Treated for their suicidal temperament or treated for their so-called ''Gender dysphoria'' because that's extremely diffrent.

Date20:41:59, June 22, 2017 CET
FromFederal Heritage Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageOOC: Treated for gender dysphoria. And while I did make up the IC organizations the statistic used while rounded is very real.

Date21:34:50, June 22, 2017 CET
From Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageOOC: very real for where? RL US? Is it the same in Canada? The UK? Russia? There are a few reasons I don't bring in statistics into this mostly because it's harder to gauge. I'm not saying that your number might not be right but we are in a game with slightly different circumstances.

Date21:36:34, June 22, 2017 CET
From Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageMr. Speaker

Frankly this is something the government should not be involving itself in. How a person identifies themselves is their own personal business though you can't change basic anatomy. We are voting against this proposal only because we do not want to involve ourselves in the conversation.

Mitchell Court
Conservative Senate Leader
Senator for Sutton

Date23:24:24, June 22, 2017 CET
FromFederal Heritage Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageOOC: I believe it was in Canada, if I'm not mistaken one of the studies was conducted by a Dr. Peterson.

Date03:53:36, June 23, 2017 CET
FromNational Progress Party
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
Message''Mr. Speaker

The comments of the senator McLaughlin are, once again, insulting, outrageous and extremely condescending. This isn't about what people feel, this is about what people are. A transgender woman is not a men that think he is a women, a transgender woman is a woman! The Federalist are saying that beign a transgender is illness, and that's true in a way, but the illness is to have a men that think he is a woman, no, the real illness is to have woman trapped inside a men's body.

And yeah, it is true, transgender are more likely to commit suicide than other people. But that's jsut because they are opressed! They are mocked, they are rejected, they are denied jobs even if they have the competence require and sometime they even have to live trought physical assault and all this just because they are born with the wrong gender.

I don't know if the senator McLaughlin realise it, and I suspect he don't, but he is part of the problem. By describing transgender people like nothing more than insane cracked that must be locked up in a mental health facility he, and his transphobic fellows, are one of the main reason why the transgenders want's to commit suicide.''

-Daphne Chang
Senator and former Prime Minister

Date03:54:33, June 23, 2017 CET
FromNational Progress Party
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
Message*just

Date05:25:27, June 23, 2017 CET
FromFederal Heritage Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

The representation of my party and myself by the NPP is extremely misguided at best and borderline malicious. First of all I would never mock, reject or refuse to hire someone based solely on a mental illness. Secondly, the NPP uses the term transphobic to describe how they think we view those suffering from Gender dysphoria. This couldn't be further from the truth, I have no more fear of those suffering from Gender dysphoria than I do of those suffering from depression. In fact I am saddened by the struggles of the mentally ill and seek to provide avenues for their treatment.

Also Senator Chang claims that these people are men trapped in women's bodies or vice versa. Yet they provide no proof of this and in fact the NPP's position on the matter flies in the face of modern psychology and modern cognitive science.

Senator Wyatt McLaughlin (F-AD)
Federalist Senate Leader

Date17:30:46, June 23, 2017 CET
From Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Gender Right Act
MessageMr. Speaker

Our caucus stands by its initial statement. This is not something the government should be involved in and we will continue our opposition to it.

Mitchell Court
Conservative Senate Leader
Senator for Sutton

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 266

no
   

Total Seats: 334

abstain
  

Total Seats: 0


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