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Bill: Worker Liberation Act 4238

Details

Submitted by[?]: Labour Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 4239

Description[?]:

An Act to improve the liberty of the working class of Luthori by enabling them to improve their own conditions and lives.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date13:58:29, June 23, 2017 CET
FromWhite Rose
ToDebating the Worker Liberation Act 4238
MessageMr Speaker,

It is almost as if the Anarchists want industry and business to stop, whilst militaristic Unions try to strong arm their demands on employers, with their fat cat bosses ordering strikes from their million pound mansions.

Collective bargaiining limits market freedom to set standards of wages for the work being done.

Why should we get involvd in working hours at all, let the employee and employer agree, individually.

Sympathy strikes are an abomination, no one should strike unless it pertains to their own pay or conditions, it is just another way for Unions to frustrate and force businesses to do what they want, it will lead to job losses.

All workers have the right to strike, public employees are well paid and have good condition, they should not be allowed to.

DWC's are investations of bad business which make no economc sense, given them subsidies and tax breaks is beyond the pale.

Marquis Dale Weston
Leader of the RCP

Date12:56:23, June 25, 2017 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Worker Liberation Act 4238
MessageMr Speaker,

The Conservatives have huge faults in almost all the arguments they make on this issue. These issues can simply be attributed to economic, political and social incompetence and also on their incredibly reactionary and idiotic ideology.

Firstly they state fat cat bosses will call strikes themselves. Why do they keep ignoring the law on this issue? Strikes can only be called via a democratic vote by all members of the union. It's highly likely the Conservatives don\'t even know what the law is. As for them being millionaires they don\'t seem to have any evidence of this really; it seems to just be a stereotype they\'ve got into their heads after decades of reading Far Right red scare propaganda.

The reason we should be involved in ensuring the workers and the bosses come to an agreement on working hours is because there's a power difference between them which allows bosses to effectively increase working hours; which due to higher worker scarcity; the workers cannot refuse. Its basic demand and supply economics. Unemployment leads to an increased supply of labour; which decreases the market power of the workers (who now have greater competition) and increases the market power of the bosses (who now have more workers to pick from and so can simply fire workers who demand higher pay and lower work hours; and then hire workers who will work for less and for longer). By forcing bosses to listen to their workers this decreases this problem. And I know the conservatives will say we should just let the market decide but labour isn\'t like any other resource; if a boss wants to get the most profit out of iron for the least cost, thats completely fine, however if he wants to get the most profit out of labour for the least cost, that\'s exploitation.

Sympathy strikes are an abomination? Have the conservatives ever heard of solidarity, or even caring about people other than themselves? Sympathy strikes allow workers to effectively issue their demands and to force government and business action; which is a good thing. Same with collective bargaining. The conservatives seem to not understand the power dynamic, they seem to think we live in a fantasy land where bosses and their workers are on an even footing. This is as big a utopian fantasy as there ever was. By providing power to workers we are levelling the playing field, not being unfair to bosses.

''All workers have the right to strike, public employees are well paid and have good condition, they should not be allowed to''. That seems to be a contradicting argument. Public workers have as much of a right to strike as everyone else. This bill allows that. Ultimately if you prevent people from striking they lose all the bargaining power they had; which effectively gives employers free reign to exploit them with no repercussions. This is as true for the government as it is for private employers.

Finally we arrive at the legalisation and government support of Democratic Worker's Councils, or as we call them, Syndicates. Syndicates are democratically run businesses inwhich the workers collectively own and control their business. Now the Federation regards these as the future of the Luthori and indeed the Terran economy. They prevent exploitation by allowing workers to get the true value of their labour without large amounts of it being siphoned off to the employer and the managers. They also are directly linked to the communities they operate in; therefore decreasing the separation of producer and consumer.

However, unsurprisingly a business which wants to pay its workers the best wages for the lowest working hours and to provide their consumers with the best products at the lowest prices is not an economically viable business model in a profit driven capitalist economy; which indeed incentivises the exact opposite; paying your workers the worst wages for the highest working hours and provide your consumers the worst products at the highest prices (something you cannot achieve without propaganda in the form of advertising, which seeks to undermine the market by creating uninformed consumers making irrational choices). Hence the government must subsidise these industries to allow them to remain competitive, in order to allow them to grow until such a time as the profit motive is eliminated from the economy entirely.

It is hard to deny that Syndicates are far better for both the producers and consumers. However as they are not profitable the conservatives want to outlaw them because reasons? Truth is Syndicates are a threat to capitalism, they provide a glimpse into a future anarchist society, and therefore in the right wing's mind, must die, quickly, before workers and the general population get the idea there is an alternative to the present order, an order which unsurprisingly has the conservatives and their supporters at the top and everyone else at the bottom.

The Masked Man,
Delegate Leader of the Anarchist Federation

Date23:52:52, July 08, 2017 CET
FromHosian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Worker Liberation Act 4238
MessageMr. Speaker,

I must really say that the Anarchists have a brain compared to the vile far-rightists without a soul. They understand the value of the workers and of democracy, of transcending and resisting worthless natures instead of forming them into pathlogies. Such as competition and greed. Humans are not born with a want for the pound in their pocket, far from it. And while a central planning system would be extremely ineffective. We can not deny the value in putting aside that all of the deadly sins. Let the Anarchists speak, and may the end of the war for our nation's liberation finally come! And may it come swiftly, without mercy!

Orange Syndicalist Leader

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