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Bill: F-75: Software Development Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federal Heritage Party of Hutori
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4237
Description[?]:
| This bill seeks to deregulate the software industry so that our software industry may grow. Article 1) All closed source software must be submitted to the the patent office for review. Article 2) Closed source software will be checked for patent infringement and malicious code. Article 3) A closed source patent will be good for ten years and can be renewed three times. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on the source code of software.
Old value:: The government does not require that all source be opened but heavilly regulates closed source software.
Current: The government allows both open and closed source software.
Proposed: The government allows both open and closed source software.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:00:05, July 02, 2017 CET | From | Federal Heritage Party of Hutori | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I hereby open this proposal to debate. Senator Wyatt McLaughlin (F-AD) Federalist Senate Leader |
| Date | 00:58:20, July 03, 2017 CET | From | National Progress Party | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | ''Mr. Speaker For me this bill seems to be kind of irrelevant. I mean this bill is nothing more than a less precise version of the current law that were established in 4152 in the ''Bill NP-36: Software regulation'' (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=501125). It's just the same bill but with less regulation and less protection for the customers.'' -Rex Powell Senator and former minister of Science and Technology |
| Date | 08:22:29, July 03, 2017 CET | From | Federal Heritage Party of Hutori | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This bill is intended to foster the free market, if a company makes bad software no one will buy it. If the software damages their computer or other device they are free to take legal action through our justice system. Customers don't need protection our citizens are smart people they can determine which products are good and which are bad by themselves. That's how the free market system works, terrible products don't make money and good ones do. Legislation "NP-36: Software regulation" is just another example of government overreach into the commercial sector and of how under NPP leadership our economy has floundered. Senator Wyatt McLaughlin (F-AD) Federalist Senate Leader |
| Date | 09:38:45, July 03, 2017 CET | From | National Progress Party | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker Believe me I am all for free market, but I sincerely believe that allowing people to commit fraud is not part of the free market. The Federalist Party attack against the great "NP-36: Software regulation" bill has been completly misleading for not to say malicious. The ''NP-36: Software regulation'' does not make bad product illegal, it only make fraudulent products illegal. And I believe I have also heard the senator McLaughin saying, and I quote, ''If the software damages their computer or other device they are free to take legal action through our justice system'' really, I think this is one of the dumbest thing I have ever heard, even for the Federalist Party standards this really stupid. Tell me, why should a guy who has been frauded by a software compagny should use his own money and his own time, two things most hutorian don't have a lot of by the way, to go trought a penible lawsuit, lawsuit that he is going to loose because huge corporation always have the best lawyers, and all this just to have some justice that should already have been giving to him by the god damn government! Of course not to mention the fact that all these lawsuits are going to cost a incredible amount of money to the state because, I don't know if the Federalist are aware of it, but judges and court employees are not free! But all these things doesn't matter for the Federalists! No, of course not, because in the mind of the brilliant senator McLaughlin, the rifht to commit fraud is now somehow part of the free market! -Rex Powell Senator and former minister of Science and Technology |
| Date | 09:39:52, July 03, 2017 CET | From | National Progress Party | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | *the right to commit fraud |
| Date | 16:08:48, July 03, 2017 CET | From |  Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker We stand with our Minister of Science & Technology on this matter. By ensuring we check for patent infringement and viruses on closed source software we are ensuring that customers aren't privy to fraud; we are ensuring that the code used in the software isn't in breach of current patent infringement. There are no as many stringent regulations as the "great" Bill passed by the NPP but it still does the job and allows the free market to prosper. We will gladly stand by Federalist colleagues on this matter. Amelia Woodbury Prime Minister of Hutori |
| Date | 16:37:00, July 03, 2017 CET | From | Federal Heritage Party of Hutori | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the prime minster for her support. It is much appreciated. As for the NPP's criticisms they are wholly ignoring part of this bill, our patent officers will be checking closed software for malicious code. They throw out insults such as dumbest and stupid however, it makes me wonder if they can even understand simple speech. I must reiterate we are not legalizing malicious code, we are simply reducing the burden that software companies need to fulfill to develop software. Lower development costs means high turn over rates which means more money, more money means more employees. This is simple economics and I'm sure that if Senator Powell takes the time to listen he'll learn more than whatever eighth grade education he has. Furthermore, the honorable Senator Powell makes the statement "justice that should already have been giving to him by the god damn government" this is the stupidest most ignorant thing I have ever heard. The government does not endow justice if that were true than government could make up whatever form of justice it wanted and that would be "just". This goes to the very foundation of moral philosophy is morality is just man made or government made then all is permitted. If we are the creators of justice and not just it's enforcers then why should we even bother Senator Powell? Senator Wyatt McLaughlin (F-AD) Federalist Senate Leader |
| Date | 18:53:35, July 03, 2017 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | Mr. McLaughlin Consider this a warning that personal attacks against other Senators are barred in this chamber and are below it's dignity. You are debating the Bill not the former Minister of Science & Technology's education or intelligence. Richard Price Speaker of the Senate |
| Date | 21:06:55, July 03, 2017 CET | From | Federal Heritage Party of Hutori | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I must apologize for my tone and I apologize to Senator Powell if any of my comments or words may have injured. However, my logical points still remain. Senator Wyatt McLaughlin (F-AD) Federalist Senate Leader |
| Date | 23:39:03, July 05, 2017 CET | From | National Progress Party | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker I would first like to thank the senator McLaughlin for his extremely relevant philosophy lesson. I mean, even the the greatest philosopher of the ancient Kalopia would have been proud to see such a sharp reasoning. Maybe next time someone is going to get frauded by a software compagny because of this law the senator McLaughlin could go see im and explain to him his idea of moral philisophy, that's probably going to make him less angry. Sadly, I fear that all this is irrelevant because the Federalist have quite misunderstood what I was trying to say. When I said "justice that should already have been giving to him by the god damn government" why I meant was ''justice that should already have been giving to him if it wasn't from the Federalist bill'' I apologise for being unclear, I tought the Federalist would be able to understand visibly they did not. Furthore more, I am amaze to see how much the senator didn't adress anything in his last statement. He didn't adress the fact that many people would have to go trought penible lawsuit if this bill pass, he didn't adress that these lawsuits would cost a incredible amount of money to the state, he didn't adress the fact that his bill would allow software compagny to sell broken or defective software without having to repair or refund their product. In fact they only relevant thing the senator has said was that his bill was making malicious code illegal. But what does that even mean? What does the Federalist define as being a malicious code? At least the bill "NP-36: Software regulation" was setting clear definition of what couldn't be put inside a software code. But this bill only say that ''malicious code are illegal'' and that is way too vague. And as you may know, a bill that too vague is praticly as worst as having no bill at all. By its vagueness and its emptiness this bill dangerous for both the software company and the customer. We cannot, in good conscience, support this bill and we would encourage every other party to vote against it. -Rex Powell Senator and former minister of Science and Technology |
| Date | 07:53:38, July 06, 2017 CET | From | Federal Heritage Party of Hutori | To | Debating the F-75: Software Development Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Two things you chastise me for language unbefitting of the senate yet you let Senator Powell spew his vitriolic speech here on the senate floor? Secondly and I mean no disrespect to Senator Powell but, what? His arguments if you could even call them that were all over the place. He uses ad hominems, red herrings and a plethora of other logically fallacious reasoning. His apparent lack of knowledge of the integral link between moral philosophy and law makes me question his suitability to even draft legislation. In addition I must draw into question Senator Powell's qualifications and ability to speak on this matter. Does he even know that in the realm of computer science "Malicious code" has a concrete definition. Honestly, I doubt that Senator could even tell me what recursion is without doing a Milliard search for it. Even then I highly doubt he could do more than regurgitate the definition provided to him. Or even what is required to initialize a coding project. Furthermore, why would this legislation actually change how legal cases are handled? Software prior to the overtly restrictive "Software Regulation" was subject to standard consumer law and it wasn't at all a burden on our justice system. In fact the NPP's argument here completely breaks down. Even if their legislation remains law for it to help anyone those people still have to take software companies to court. Or does the NPP believe that innocent until proven guilty only applies to some? They still have to go through the same justice system regardless of which law is being applied. In all honesty senator Powell you are ridiculous you have no knowledge of computer science, law, moral philosophy, our judicial system, or economics. Yet you offer your opinion on a matter that involves all five of those. You spout your party line with no facts, truth or any logically coherent arguments to back you up. However, I don't know why I should have expected any different as your party doesn't seem to hold logic, facts or truth in high regard anyways. Senator Wyatt McLaughlin (F-AD) Federalist Senate Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 254 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 346 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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