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Bill: The Flag Act of 4284

Details

Submitted by[?]: Republican Centrist Alliance

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 4285

Description[?]:

We in The Republican Centrist Alliance propose to change our national flag to one that more appropriatly represents the Likatonian national spirit and ethos. Of Liberty, Equality and Brotherhood. . Therefore we belive that we need to change our flag from the old colonial slave holding flag that was given to us by our old colonial masters the Luthori Empire. We need a new flag that represents a new new era, a new begining and a new birth of freedom. A flag that represents our Republic and our People. A flag that truly represents the people`s goverment. A flag that represents our free and indepedndent nation of the Federal Republic of Likationa and nothing else "Out of many, one".

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date10:59:45, October 09, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOur current flag has represented all Likatonians for 259 years. It is beautiful, unique and representative of our Nation. The proposed one seems just like an ugly collage.

OOC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andalusia

Date12:34:13, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageThe old flag represents slavery, oppression and colonialism. While new flag stands for LIBERTY AND OUR GLORIOUS REPUBLIC.

Date12:38:37, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageAlso the old flag stands for racism, sexism and agism.

Date12:39:31, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageCorrection "Ageism"

Date15:05:14, October 09, 2017 CET
FromUnited Left Party - Equality First
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOOC: I don't think it is allowed to use real world flags, our party would support flag-change if this was not the case

Date15:36:05, October 09, 2017 CET
FromDemocratic Technocracy Directive
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOOC: No matter what this wouldn't succeed due to closed culture of this nation which makes us unable to change the official anything representing our country

Date15:47:43, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOCC: Its not a real world flag. And it is allowed to change the flag. Why else would it be an option as a bill? The Luthori Empire for one and several other nations have recently changed there flags by the way.

Date15:54:05, October 09, 2017 CET
FromDemocratic Technocracy Directive
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOOC: I admit this reasoning would be scarce for a debate on my part but it wont be recognized by the official server, it may say it in the game but it wont actually count due to: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6365 with us being culturally protected, neither us nor the Luthori have any right to change it at the present time.

Date15:57:14, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOCC: The only thing the proposed flag has in common with the real world flag is that both of them have the Republican tricolour pattern which is common in all nations that have a Republic as there goverment system. And the last time i checked we are a republic.


Date15:58:17, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOCC The Tricolour panttern https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricolour_(flag)

Date16:10:05, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOur current "flag" that was given to us from our colonial slave holding religious fundemantalist masters is beish with an animals head and a red star. How is that beautiful? Lets design our own flag by Likatonians for Likatonians.

Date17:56:07, October 09, 2017 CET
FromUnited Left Party - Equality First
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOOC: Correction I thought it was the andalucian flag and not something that was only simular.

Date17:57:51, October 09, 2017 CET
FromUnited Left Party - Equality First
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageWe the ULP-EF officially endorse this flag change

Date18:39:58, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageSince this amendement will not get the recuired 2/3 majority to get passed, the RCA will propose a new flag for our nation.

Date20:25:34, October 09, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageThe current flag was actually established in 4024 by this Bill http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=471313, right at the same time that monarchy was abolished (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=471325) and exactly one year after the government no longer registered the race or religion of individuals (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=471234), so don't dare say it's a symbol of slavery in our nation. In any case it is the contrary.

Date20:53:43, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageThe monarchy was reinstated later on and they keep the flag. So its a monarchist symbol. That is why we need a new flag that stands for a new era of liberty a new era of independence and a new birth of freedom.

Date21:28:41, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOCC: Yes Likatonia is culturally protected as a American culture. So what? the flag has been changed several times over before. And my proposed flag is a republican flag, and so is America and Likatonia. So the new flags are not breaking the rules. If for example i proposed that the new flag would have a giant cross or an islamic half moon that would be in violation of the culturally protected claus because the USA is secular. So in conclusion this is not on breach of the culturally protected rules.

Date21:29:43, October 09, 2017 CET
FromRepublican Centrist Alliance
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageBecause i followed the Likatonia culture when the flag was designed.

Date01:27:15, October 10, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the The Flag Act of 4284
MessageOOC: Personally I find it unfair that you give arguments on the origin of the flag that you can't prove on which you base a strong argument for its change. I showed you the bills through which the flag was established, surfed around the bills passed at that time and found no mention to what you say - quite the contrary. Not even in between that time and the present. I request you either to find the reference or quit using the argument. I also beg other parties to withdraw their yes vote to this bill until the RCA explains why using the "slavery" reference, and based on what, just in case it's made up.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 313

no
   

Total Seats: 112

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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