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Bill: LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala'
Details
Submitted by[?]: θ²θ±ε (Lotus Party) πΈ
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 4344
Description[?]:
Mr. Speaker, It is with extreme shock and repugnance that I rise today to condemn the Warlord Party, and ask all my fellow Assemblymen to join me. The Warlord Party is a political organization which at its core desires to break up our country. But now, this Party has engaged in overt treason against the Government of Indrala, the people who have elected it and against the Son of Heaven and the Mother of the Nation. Mr. Speaker, I hope that the General will rise and give explanation as to why his party has joined an international organization which is dedicated to the "friends and allies of the Grand Empress of Dankuk," and "to appreciate the Empress' accomplishments and her family." This is despite LP/R-101, which declares that Indrala recognizes the House of Ryeo as the legitimate ruling clan of Dankuk, and thus does not recognize the claim of Taeyang-saekki, and sanctions enacted in laws R-201, LP-211 and PP-202. Mr. Speaker, let us not forget that Taeyang's party specifically laid siege to Beonyeongsalm Palace and murdered Prince Seojun, caused the entire Ryeo family great distress and harm for nearly 20 years as they fled her violent and aggressive henchmen, and most probably ordered the assassination of Ryeo Choesun VI in 4332. Let us not forget that this Dranian government, headed by President Taeyang-saekki, passed a law "de-recognizing" Indrala, and as recently as July 4338 voted against Indrala for seat C in the World Congress. Her Imperial and Royal Highness, Ryeo Kyunghee, Mother to the Son of Heaven herself sought refuge in Indrala at age seven. The Taeyang tyrant and her party are no friends of Indrala. Mr. Speaker, we already know that the Warlord Party is a party which wishes to divide our nation. Perhaps getting in bed with the enemy is one way to further their cause. Shame. -- Dai Jinhao Leader of the Official Opposition Lotus Party |
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Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 11:04:28, February 02, 2018 CET | From | ε°θ»ι»¨ (The Military Party) ποΈ | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr Speaker, Honored Opposition, The Warlord Party is not an organization of chaos and dissent as you make us out to be! We merely wish for the freedom of local government over the federal that dictates without knowing the local struggles men and women have to endure, but, that is not the reason why you are here today making such a vile statement against myself AND my party. You assume that because we are friendly to the Empress of Dankuk, we are directly going against the Son of Heaven and the Mother of the Nation. That is simply not the case. The Empress of Dankuk, while illegitimate, is still the power that holds Dankuk together and for the foreseeable future is the monarch of such nation. Is it such a CRIME that we wish to be friendly with a monarch in power, especially one that understands our concern with the state of the nation as it is today, a nation that ignores it's less fortunate (WP-2: Energy for the Less Fortunate) and refuses our ancestral rights (WP-1: Enabling Decentralization Through Arms)! While we are dissatisfied with the current environment that our government has caused, we are in no way treasonous nor wishing to divide the nation. All we wish is for peace within the nation and peace within the continent, if such a ideal is disagreed upon by the honorable Opposition, then maybe this nation is in more DIRE straits than I had previously thought. Mr Speaker, please disregard the opinions of the honorable Opposition, for clearly they have been misinformed, but luckily, I am here to inform our TRUE purposes and choices. However, I have a feeling that our own ideas will be ignored by the Opposition and by the rest of government merely because we are an available scapegoat. -- General Beifuyn Ji, 72nd 'Tiger' Army Group Warlord Party -- (OOC: I hope I did alright! I haven't ever done any proper RP within this game, so please tell me if I did anything that would be faux pa!) |
Date | 17:49:24, February 02, 2018 CET | From | η©ε€§ε ±η’黨 (Communist Party) π | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The tyrant of Dankuk has been on a global diplomatic campaign and we've watched as they signed more and more bilateral agreements, adding increasing legitimacy to their deceitful authoritarian regime. This is unacceptable and the alignment of the Warlord Party to this international organization is yet another sign of Dankuk's global campaign for recognition. We cannot stand for this. This is an absolute disgrace and we should not tolerate any support for the Dranian tyrants. The so-called empress and her political allies cannot ever be recognized as holding legitimacy in Dankuk. Whether Dankuk remains a monarchy or returns to liberal republicanism, it does not matter, any outcome is acceptable so long as the Hwangje are out of the picture. LΓΌ Yejun Party Leader New Dawn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Speaker, My party's leader is correct to point out the Dranian diplomatic campaigns being directed by the empress. This should be a cause for major concern and this should be a prime opportunity for Indrala to show its renewed power in Dovani. The political instability of the northern peninsula is nothing new and the authoritarian regime should be put in its place. If we allow them to continue this campaign it will become impossible to deal with the Hwangje dictatorship. They need to be put in their place and democratic order must be restored in Dankuk. And indeed, whether it is still a monarchy, if it becomes a republic, or hell, even if it were reduced to an Indralan tributary, the nation would be vastly better off than it currently is under the Hwangje potemkin empire. Gang Wu Chairman Project for Greater Dovani Prosperity |
Date | 17:56:23, February 02, 2018 CET | From | θ²θ±ε (Lotus Party) πΈ | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I concur with the Honourable Leader of New Dawn; diplomacy is adding legitimacy for Taeyang's illegitimate regime. I hope that the Honourable Leader will use his position in the coalition government to pursue more robust relations with our allies to counter this influence. The Warlords must must decide: is it Indrala, or is it President Taeyang? If it's Indrala, then certainly the General must recognize that he cannot enter into a support organization for a foreign and illegitimate ruler, the actions of whom caused the death of the Son of Heaven's own grandfather and uncle. This organization claims that "no Ryeo/Lu sympathizers" are allowed. The logical conclusion of the Warlord Party's membership in this organization is that they do not support or "sympathize" with the House of Ryeo, from which the Son of Heaven matrilineally descends, in contravention of the law (LP/R-101). If it's Indrala, the General must recognize that President Taeyang has "derecognized" Indrala and moved to pursue other aggressive policies against our country. Whether the Warlords wish to nationalize our energy sector or allow private armies and militias to form in this country, as the General mentioned; these are domestic issues. If the General cannot argue for these policies effectively, it does not justify him seeking a foreign aggressor for support. The General's support, and mandate, comes from the people of Indrala! Not a foreign tyrant! If it's Indrala, then the General must be honest; the General does NOT desire peace within our nation. The goal of his party, as stated, is to "break up Indrala into a group of Warlord States." It is the aim of the General and his party to allow private militias to fight for political power. This is antithetical to Indralan democracy. The only individual I could think of who might support such a goal would be our enemies, namely Taeyang-saekki. Therefor, If it's President Taeyang, then the Warlord Party must be condemned. For whatever reason, they have chosen a foreign tyrant over their own Son of Heaven and over the one-hundred million people who live in Indrala and kowtow to the Dragon Throne. They have chose a foreign tyrant despite the nearly 2,000,000 Kyo refugees in Indrala who have fled Taeyang's oppression (OOC: Change in cultural protocols and RP). Shame on them. Dai Jinhao Leader of the Official Opposition Lotus Party |
Date | 23:27:23, February 02, 2018 CET | From | ε°θ»ι»¨ (The Military Party) ποΈ | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The honorable opposition and his lackeys seem to be a broken record, but I can understand not supporting out ideas but claiming us to be in the service of President Taeyang?! I have never been more offended nor have my ancestors been in hundreds of years. It is one thing for you to claim our policies are 'antithetical to Indralan Democracy' but to claim us as traitors?! That is inexcusable. I have you know that I will be filling for defamation after this, for I cannot take an offense like that lightly. However, to the main point of things. The Warlord Party and I are loyal to Indrala, I myself serving in our armed forces for over 20 years, I am loyal to the Emperor and loyal to our flag, to claim that I am in the service of a foreign power is laughable. If the honorable Opposition is so struck on condemning us for made-up charges and petty insults, then we will give up on our friendship with Dankuk and break ties with President Taeyang. All the relations built up, for nothing. With Taeyang supportive to Indrala or to at least us, we could have worked out an compromise or a deal that benefits Indrala, but now that we will break ties all that is gone to the wind. Do not blame us if there is recompense, for all we wanted was peace. -- General Beifuyn Ji, 72nd 'Tiger' Army Group Warlord Party |
Date | 23:31:57, February 02, 2018 CET | From | ε°θ»ι»¨ (The Military Party) ποΈ | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, One final word before I give the stage back to the Opposition, it seems that their facts are crooked. The Dankuk government has recognized Indrala for the past several years, even if travel restrictions are still in place (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=555050). Also, the Taeyang support group is not a government project nor is it run with any subsides by the government and is entirely run by a private citizen, one Miss Seo. However, I doubt fact will even interest the honorable Opposition because their vitriol is so high and their minds blinded, so, I rest my case and leave it up to the people to decide. -- General Beifuyn Ji, 72nd 'Tiger' Army Group Warlord Party |
Date | 01:06:02, February 03, 2018 CET | From | η©ε€§ε ±η’黨 (Communist Party) π | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Our nation's friendship with Dankuk ended with the Hwangje coup. For anyone to think that the Taeyang has even the slightest positive view of Indrala is quite a wrong view. She has made no secret of her hatred of our people and our nation. And every show of good will from the regime is always accompanied by hidden motives to undermine, and often imprison or murder, their opponents. The Dranians are devious and it is naive to provide them any level of support, including alignment to instruments of the Hwangje cult of personality, which is exactly what the so-called fan club is. Gang Wu Chairman Project for Greater Dovani Prosperity |
Date | 07:42:54, February 03, 2018 CET | From | θΏζ₯ε (Progress Party) π² | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We have fought far too long to turn our backs on these principles. Let me be clear: the Centre Party will not stand for anyone who defends, supports or affiliates with Taeyang. LP/R-101 was monumental legislation drafted by our Republican predecessors, and the work put into that legislation through bi-partisan cooperation between the Republicans and Lotus Party was historic in its own right. We will not disgrace His Excellency Zhang Zemin, for his leadership as Grand Chancellor during those trying times was honourable. Tao Hong Leader Centre Party |
Date | 19:38:12, February 03, 2018 CET | From | 姬ζ©ι»¨ (Jien Faction) π | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Beyond condemning the Warlord Party, which we are in favor of, we should condemn, censure, and even expel all those who do not swear loyalty to the Son of Heaven. Those are the true traitors. |
Date | 22:05:37, February 03, 2018 CET | From | η€Ύζ黨 (Socialist Party) πΉ | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | This comment by the member of the Jien Party defeats the democratic system that we theoretically have in place. |
Date | 22:32:22, February 03, 2018 CET | From | θ΅θ±θ―η (Sunflower Coalition) π» | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The Social Democrats are in complete agreeance with the Lotus Party. Whether or not the Warlords are affiliate with the Taeyang, they are a danger to our nation. Their ideal of an extremely decentralized Indrala, to the point of being multiple nations can never be followed through with. Such actions will not only work to destabilize the modern democratic state we have worked to build, but leave us vulnerable to foreign forces that might seek our destruction, one such name coming to mind being the Warlord's friends in Dankuk. My party also must reaffirm the Socialist Party's statement. The comment made by the Jien Party is should be worrying to all of Indrala, and undermines the democratic, constitutional monarchy the country agreed upon. Fa Rong Party Leader Social Democratic Party |
Date | 23:31:44, February 03, 2018 CET | From | θ²θ±ε (Lotus Party) πΈ | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, To be clear, this is a parliamentary democracy. As such, the Grand Assembly is bound by parliamentary privilege; that is, no Assemblyman or woman can be sued for their comments in this chamber. It's nice that the General would like to see a system in which he can punish and pursue his political adversaries, but that is NOT the Indralan system. Rather, this is similar to the system President Taeyang-saekki has established in Dankuk. Perhaps the General would be more at home in Iglesia Mayor! Dai Jinhao Leader Lotus Party |
Date | 06:24:49, February 04, 2018 CET | From | ε°θ»ι»¨ (The Military Party) ποΈ | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr Speaker, I think the honorable member from the Lotus Party is mistaken, I have never once called to punish nor pursue my adversaries, but clearly the words of the Jien Party member are ignored! Surely and I quote, "Beyond condemning the Warlord Party, which we are in favor of, we should condemn, censure, and even expel all those who do not swear loyalty to the Son of Heaven. Those are the true traitors." is the only thing that should be condemned. For we are exercising our right to discuss, but the Jien Party wish for us to be condemned, censored, and expelled for what charge? For what charge I ask? Maybe the Lotus Party member should have his hearing checked, for in no place did I say that we should punish our adversaries, I would only 'punish' one for insulting and insinuating that I am a traitor to Indrala through a civil court order. Something that would be settled in civilian life, not through politics, nor through censorship or expulsion. Merely an apology would do. I am sure that the Lotus Party is condemning me out of this chamber as well, it would make sense to me that such a group of charlatans and firebrands would insult an old, respected man such as myself. -- General Beifuyn Ji, 72nd 'Tiger' Army Group Warlord Party |
Date | 06:55:26, February 04, 2018 CET | From | θ²θ±ε (Lotus Party) πΈ | To | Debating the LP-102: Motion to Condemn 'The Warlord Party of Indrala' |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Of course our party does not stand by the statement made by the honourable member from the Jien Party. It is contradictory to the foundational principle of our Party; that is, supporting a strong liberal democracy. We will never support the censure and expulsion of political opponents of the Son of Heaven. However, Mr. Speaker, the General once again fails to grasp the essence of the discussion. Naturally, as every single Assemblyman in this chamber has served in the Armed Forces, we have respect for the position that the General held. But in the political realm, the General is seeking, despite whatever he says, to divide our nation and break it apart. Despite what the General says, his party has aligned itself with the adversaries of Indrala and with the murderer of His Imperial Majesty's Grandfather. For recognizing my patriotic duty to bring this to the attention of the Grand Assembly, I will not apologize. -- Dai Jinhao Leader Lotus Party |
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