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Bill: Meeting Between Vice President Taphmēi and Culture Minister Maskini Regarding the Future of the Monarchy

Details

Submitted by[?]: Ity ꜣḥwt xꜣdt

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 4364

Description[?]:

(OOC: When passed. the name of the country will be Esinsundu Empire, Hawu Mumenhes)

Setting: The Vice President's Office at government headquarters in Aqqak, Aqak

VICE PRESIDENT TAPHMĒI:

Minister Maskini, welcome to my office and thank you for joining me in this meeting.

I've asked you to join me in this meeting because President Morrison and I have determined that it's time for a transition to occur within the Head of State office. As Minister of Education and Culture, you have the Constitutional power and duty to oversee the monarchy. Therefore President Morrison requested that I consult with you about the transition.

The reason a transition is necessary is that King Chotho was elected 10 years ago in 4353, but the official Head of State title in our country and the national anthem still refer to Queen Hatshepsut. Additionally, the Talmorian government has requested that we announce the passing of Pharaoh Senusret since he has reigned as emperor for more than 100 years. Talmoria has requested that the granddaughter of Queen Hatshepsut and Pharaoh Senusret be named as the new Empress of the Esinsundu Empire. Her name is Empress Aminatu Saksoure IX. Talmoria has requested that the new Empress be based in Talmoria instead of Hawu Mumenhes. This would mean that Hawu Mumenhes would no longer be the capitol of the Esinsundu Empire. However Empress Aminatu would still be Pharaoh of Hawu Mumenhes in addition to Queen of Talmoria and the monarch of any other countries that may join the empire.

Traditionally, King Chotho would be expected to enter a symbolic marriage with the new Empress. However, since Empress Aminatu would not live in Hawu Mumenhes, President Morrison and I don't believe it's necessary to have a ritual marriage in this case. Instead the President and I would like to have Empress Aminatu listed as the symbolic and ceremonial Head of State of the country while King Chotho still holds the actual powers of Head of State. Since King Chotho would not be married to the Empress, we would like see him to relinquish the title of King and instead adopt a title like Governor General, Regent, or something of your choosing. This would allow us to remove the monarchy element from the government at least for the next generation. President Morrison and I believe removing the monarchy's role in the government for at least a few decades will be healthy for the country since your party and our party both have factions that are against monarchy for various reasons.

The President and I would like to know your views about these changes. Once you and I can reach an agreement, a bill will be submitted to the Gathering to change the official Head of State title and national anthem accordingly.

The President has also asked that I consult with you about a related matter. The President and the Minister of Foreign Affairs are considering opening negotiations with Malivia to join the Esinsundu Empire. The President is considering offering to relocate Empress Aminatu to Malivia instead of Talmoria. Talmoria's government is open to the possibility. If successful, it would make Malivia both the capitol and leading country of the empire. Since King Chotho is a member of your party and since you oversee the monarchy as Minister of Culture, the President asked that I consult with you about your views on this possible offer.

Finally, in the bill changing the Head of State title and the national anthem, the President would also like the official name of the country to be changed to "Esinsundu Empire, Hawu Mumenhes" to match Talmoria's official name and make our membership in the empire clear to the rest of the world.

What do you think of all of this?

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date04:38:45, March 17, 2018 CET
From Qd Bȝk Ḫȝꜣdtỉ
ToDebating the Meeting Between Vice President Taphmēi and Culture Minister Maskini Regarding the Future of the Monarchy
MessageVice President Taphmēi, thank you for calling me here.

I think it is due time that we have the official Head of State title and national anthem refer to King Chotho. We should most definitely announce his passing, he was our Pharaoh. I do support for Miss Saksoure to become Empress. I don't exactly like Talmorias request to move the Imperial capital to Talmoria, I understand it. Hawu Mumenhes has recently been divided between those who support the monarchy and those who want to transition to a republic. Talmoria, on the other hand, is more unanimous in supporting the monarchy.

I do support us having this republic-esque form of government. Like I said, Hawu Mumenhes has become more divided between monarchist and republicans as of these last decades. This will give the undecided a feel of what it would be like under a republic. Just to clarify, all factions of my party support the establishment of a republics. Even our "monarchist" faction, which only supports it if the people support it as well. I do thing that Governor General would be a good title for the new head of state.

I don't think that making Malivia the capital is a wise decision. It would be like naming a newly settled land the capital of a nation that already has plenty of cities that are more fitting.

I would prefer that it be changed to something else like Esinsundu Dominion of Hawu Mumenhes. Including "empire" may anger our republican population. With dominion, we can still make it clear we are a part of the Esinsundu Empire and that we function more as a republic internally at the same time.

Date19:09:19, March 17, 2018 CET
From Ity ꜣḥwt xꜣdt
ToDebating the Meeting Between Vice President Taphmēi and Culture Minister Maskini Regarding the Future of the Monarchy
MessageVICE PRESIDENT TAPHMĒI:

Minister Maskini, I have forwarded your comments on these matters to the President who has assured me he will take them under careful advisement, especially regarding possible negotiations with the Malivian government. Unfortunately regarding the official name of the country however, the President was not willing to support the name "Esinsundu Dominion" on account of its colonial connotations. The President emphasized to me that "Esinsundu Empire, Hawu Mumenhes" is the historical and traditional name of the country whenever it has been part of the Empire, and that the most critical concern is that our official name should match that of other members of the Empire so that foreigners viewing the Nations of the World register (http://classic.particracy.net/viewnations.php) know immediately at a glance that our beloved land is joined with our Imperial allies in the Empress's Majesty. The President is open to discussing these matters further following the election, but feels that a bill should be brought to vote immediately so that an update of some kind can be in place before the election.

Thank you for joining me, Minister Maskini. We'll be in touch.

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