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Bill: OOC/RP: Cultural Protocols of Baltusia (Reintroduced)
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Democratic Party (NDP)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4449
Description[?]:
| Ethnicity: 67.1% Baltusian (RLE: European based American) --71% Luthorian-Baltusian (RLE: English based American) --21% Esinsundu-Baltusian (RLE: African-American) --8% Egelian-Baltusian (RLE: Hispanic-American) 13.3% Esinsundu (RLE: African) 5.6% Egelian (RLE: Spanish) 4.5% Indralan (RLE: Han Chinese) 3.1% Dundorfian (RLE: German) 1.2% Mashacara, Shinjalan (RLE: Native American) 0.5% Kazulian (RLE: Norwegian) 4.7% Other Language: Official: Luthorian (RLE: English) Recognized: Egelian (RLE: Spanish), Indralan (RLE: Chinese), Dundorfian (RLE: German) Primary and only language is Luthorian (RLE: English), and political party names should reflect as such, unless they represent one of the minority languages. Aside from that, party names should be translated into the English language. Religion: 69% Hosian (RLE: Christian) —45% Luthoran (Confessional, Ameliorate—RLE: Protestantism) —30% Aurorian Patriarchal (RLE: Catholicism) —15% Bishopal —10% Other Hosian 24% Unaffiliated/Irreligious 3% Unspecified/Unanswered 2% Yeudi (RLE: Jewish) 1% Mu’tazillah (RLE: Muslim) 1% Daenist (RLE: Buddhist) 1% Geraja (RLE: Hindi) 1% Other Nation name, additional linguistic information: In Luthorian (RLE: English) - Baltusia In Egelian (RLE: Spanish) - Baltúsia In Indralan (RLE: Han Chinese) - 把路途下 (Transliterated: Bǎlùtúxiǎ) In Dundorfian (RLE: German) - Baltusischesland In Luthorian (RLE: English) - United States In Egelian (RLE: Spanish) - Estados Unidos In Indralan (RLE: Han Chinese) - 美国 (Transliterated: Měiguó) In Dundorfian (RLE: German) - Vereinigte Staaten Nation description: Baltusia is a mix of cultures and ethnicities, and is considered the “melting pot” of Terra. From the Egelian influenced culture and architecture in the south, to the old Luthorian styles in the north, a remnant of the post-colonial nature still adherent even thousands of years later. Regional Descriptions: Attano (Currently Lindar Valley) - Attano used to be home to a significant Canrillaise population, but over the years they have been reduced to an extremely small minority, so much so that the so called “Attano Canrillaise” aren’t included in census statistics. But it’s previous culture definitely shows in the state’s architecture, especially in the capital, Castella (will probably be changed to New Valois). The state is home to many rolling hills, and boasts the north Seleyan mountain range, attracting tourists far and wide. Towns are small and are home to small department stores, as opposed the the capital, which is home to numerous service providers. Attano’s real life equivalents are derived from the old French colony of Louisiana, mainly the deep south and parts of the midwest. Westbrook (Currently Terrarkokka) - Home to most of Baltusia’s native population, along with a significant Dundorfian minority, tourists to the region will quickly note the Luthorian and native languages written on road signs, mainly in the Mashacara (RLE: Cherokee) and Shinjalan (RLE: Apache) languages. Flanked by the north Seleyan range in the East, a popular saying amongst fellow Baltusians is that people from Westbrook are the happiest in the world, due to them being cut off from society. Aside from this trope, services thrive in the region, mainly in the form of logging and some limited agriculture. Westbrook’s real life equivalents mainly come from the northeast, in the Appalachian mountain states, like West Virginia, and some slight influences from New England. Ralston (Currently Gevaro, New name probably will be changed) - Most Baltusians call this state their home. Ralston makes use of its mostly flat land by way of farming, often giving it the nickname “the Breadbasket of Seleya”. In the northeast portion of the state, closely bordering Likatonia, many industrial operations are conducted, along with oil refining. The real life equivalent of Ralston is the extreme west, with areas such as Nebraska and the Dakotas. New Egelion (Currently Albiland) - New Egelion is a mixed bag of ethnicities. A large portion of Baltusians also inhabit the state, along with a significant Egelian minority, so much so that street and highway signs are bilingual, along with the population. Many domestic service providers make their homes here, from local grocery stores to industrial corporations, along with some information providers. The land is mostly the same as Ralston, being mostly flat, with occasional hills. New Egelion’s real life equivalents are somewhat derived from the desert states of Arizona and New Mexico, except New Egelion is lush, rather than barren. Santiago (Currently Athosia) - The largest amount of ethnic Egelians call this place their home, along with a large chunk of the Indralan population, although Egelion culture is especially reflected in the state capital’s name, Costa de Oro. Santiago is known for its white sandy beaches in the small strip of land that opens Baltusia into the Antanonese ocean. It is often a popular vacation destination also for Luthorian-Baltusians, marvelling at the old Egelian architecture, as well as relaxing in the southernmost regions, which boast a tropical climate. Santiago’s real life equivalent is essentially Florida. Character naming: http://www.fantasynamegenerators.com/english_names.php https://www.fakenamegenerator.com/gen-male-us-us.php |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:58:01, August 19, 2018 CET | From | National Democratic Party (NDP) | To | Debating the OOC/RP: Cultural Protocols of Baltusia (Reintroduced) |
| Message | OOC: I leave this for debate by the other parties. I am willing to compromise and revise this bill to suit everyone’s concerns. Contrary to what the Democratic Party said, a waiting period of one month is NOT required for nations that do not possess cultural protocols. |
| Date | 17:35:25, August 21, 2018 CET | From | Republican Party - Democrats | To | Debating the OOC/RP: Cultural Protocols of Baltusia (Reintroduced) |
| Message | Ooc: That's not what I said. I had thought the rules stated that a party had to be active in a nation for one month before they could propose cultural protocols, however I may be mistaken as it is a long time since I've been on the forums. I will comment on the above once I have routine access to a computer again. |
| Date | 10:41:18, August 22, 2018 CET | From | Republican Party - Democrats | To | Debating the OOC/RP: Cultural Protocols of Baltusia (Reintroduced) |
| Message | Ooc: Ok I figured the best way to look at this would be to break this into small chunks, therefore; Language - Nothing to add. Religion - The only suggestion I have is that the Hosian population looks something like the following; 69% Hosian (RLE: Christian) of which - 45% Luthoran (Confessional or Ameliorate) (due to the significance of low Church migrants from the original Luthori migrations, Dundorfian immigrants and various other immigrant groups to Baltusia losing contact with their ancestral Churches. Additionally assumption that "Black" Churches are largely Protestant, if not reduce this figure to 30% and have 15% as Esinsundu Churches) - 30% Aurorian Patriarchal (Primarily linked to the Egelion (and Valruzian if accepted in ethnicity) community and other traditionally Aurorian Patriarchal that have migrated to Baltusia) - 15% Bishopal (still has some links to the Luthori Church and the Luthori Communion) - 10% Other Hosian (various other Hosian denominations exist in Terra and may have migrated to Baltusia) |
| Date | 03:24:45, August 23, 2018 CET | From | National Democratic Party (NDP) | To | Debating the OOC/RP: Cultural Protocols of Baltusia (Reintroduced) |
| Message | OOC: I can agree with that. I will wait until the other parties have given their thoughts on this bill before sending it off to vote. It’s obviously pretty important, so I encourage all parties to give suggestions or comments on it. |
| Date | 09:57:55, August 24, 2018 CET | From | Republican Party - Democrats | To | Debating the OOC/RP: Cultural Protocols of Baltusia (Reintroduced) |
| Message | Ooc: My next comment was to be on ethnicity. However as you've put so much work in I won't make too much of a fuss about it. My two biggest issues are; 1 - There should be a reasonable mixed race population. 2 - The Kazilians form 0.2% of the population. That they have been recognised seperately from "Other" would suggest that "Other" consists of groups with <0.2% of the population? Is this the case of could the Kazulians be bumped up a bit to ~1% and there "Other" would represent all ethnicities of less than 1%. After that I'd still suggest that there would be some Valruzians/Tukarese/Kalistanis and Lodamese kicking about. The Baltusian figure suggests that they're like RL Europeans, but that 21% of these are like RL Africans. Can this be clarified? Surely "Baltusian" in this case would be a nationality? If so why is a third of the population outside this figure, why are they're Esinsundu- and Egelion-Baltusians, as well as Esinsundu and Egelion non-Baltusians, why not the same for the Dundorfians? Additionally although the Luthorian-Baltusians are likely linguistically Luthorian, surely their ethnicity would be more mixed. Would they not be better described as "Artanian"-Baltusians, with ethnic Luthorians forming a prominent ancestral identity? If this were the case surely Dundorfians could be lumped in with this category too (perhaps we could explain that Artanian-Baltusians are of primarily Luthorian/Dundorfian/wherever stock)? Just some more thoughts. |
| Date | 08:23:49, September 02, 2018 CET | From | Republican Party - Democrats | To | Debating the OOC/RP: Cultural Protocols of Baltusia (Reintroduced) |
| Message | Ooc: Whenever you want to put is to vote I'll back, although could kazilians be bumped up to say 0.5% or higher as explained in the post above. |
| Date | 00:20:35, September 03, 2018 CET | From | National Democratic Party (NDP) | To | Debating the OOC/RP: Cultural Protocols of Baltusia (Reintroduced) |
| Message | OOC: Changes have been proposed, and it seems we have reached a consensus. Will put it to vote. It is EXTREMELY important that all parties be active to vote on it, for it heavily impacts the future of the nation. Find a place and time within the next two days where you can vote on it. |
| Date | 13:49:12, September 05, 2018 CET | From | Republican Party - Democrats | To | Debating the OOC/RP: Cultural Protocols of Baltusia (Reintroduced) |
| Message | Oh man, I'm so sorry! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 91 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 159 |
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